This must be G14's worst nightmare.

[All Guns Blazing II]

Hope he gets one.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Hope he gets one.

Same here. About five mins ago, the ball was played to him, back to goal by the HWL. Goes down onto his back with 2 arm wrapped 'round him. No foul.

[redgunamo]

Hope he gets one.

So long as we win, no-one cares except gamblers and Fantasy Football League managers.

[All Guns Blazing II]

So long as we win, no-one cares except gamblers and Fantasy Football League managers.

And the player in question. His confidence is on the floor. Looked forlorn out there.

[WES]

And the player in question. His confidence is on the floor. Looked forlorn out there.

He looks like a fish out of water, he's playing like a traditional No.9 and the rest of the players seem to think they're playing with a falso 9, which he patently is not.

At one point we finally had a decent move down our left, Eze on the ball in space, Gyok on their CH's shoulder, it looked set for a good chance for him.

Eze's ball in went out for a goal kick

[John Bunnell]

Gyok was sh*t last session he is sh*t this season shocker. I find the affection this guy has by some of us weird. He's clearly limited as hell. One thing he has is he works hard.

[7sisters]

We shouldn’t overthink these things. It’s not looking good for him for a whole number of reasons. I’m reading a lot about systems, service and playing to his strengths.
I don’t really care, it’s for Arteta to get the best from him, if he can’t then sell him in the window and move on, he’s had long enough.
I’m also fairly sure that Eze won’t be far behind him either. Awful distribution at times. Can’t seem to do the simple things.

[Peter]

He looks like a fish out of water, he's playing like a traditional No.9 and the rest of the players seem to think they're playing with a falso 9, which he patently is not.

At one point we finally had a decent move down our left, Eze on the ball in space, Gyok on their CH's shoulder, it looked set for a good chance for him.

Eze's ball in went out for a goal kick

Madueke put in two almost perfect balls for him. For the first he didnt get across the defender. For the second he was sitting off slightly.

Yes, he is limited. Most of the best strikers are. He just looks down at the moment but he shouldn't be. He'll get minutes if he does his work and stays sharp. We need him.

He needs to look at players like Merino and Zubimendi who will do what they have to do in order to play.

[WES]

We shouldn’t overthink these things. It’s not looking good for him for a whole number of reasons. I’m reading a lot about systems, service and playing to his strengths.
I don’t really care, it’s for Arteta to get the best from him, if he can’t then sell him in the window and move on, he’s had long enough.
I’m also fairly sure that Eze won’t be far behind him either. Awful distribution at times. Can’t seem to do the simple things.

He's had long enough, 7s? I'm open to a discussion on his role and ability but he's had one season which is hardly enough.

Bobby Pires and Thierry Henry are two names that come to mind. Mikael Arteta too, just ask Bunnell.

[WES]

Madueke put in two almost perfect balls for him. For the first he didnt get across the defender. For the second he was sitting off slightly.

Yes, he is limited. Most of the best strikers are. He just looks down at the moment but he shouldn't be. He'll get minutes if he does his work and stays sharp. We need him.

He needs to look at players like Merino and Zubimendi who will do what they have to do in order to play.

As I said, fish out of water. Partly how we're playing, partly a lack of confidence. Seems strange as he finished well last year.

[Rich]

As I said, fish out of water. Partly how we're playing, partly a lack of confidence. Seems strange as he finished well last year.

'Finished well last year' is perhaps an over-statement. I think what you mean is 'looked less bad then he did in the first half of the season'.

That progress has regressed. It's clear that Arteta sees it as I do and tried to get rid of him in the summer - he seems very downbeat.

Not his fault, of course. But the manager and players clearly don't trust him one iota. Sad to see and I imagine he's sold in Jan.

That will mean that both Gabi and Gyokores have gone as per my pleas last season. At least someone is listening!

[WES]

I’m never too sure what is most impressive about Rich, his lack of self-awareness, his persistence or his total lack of understanding of football.

For now I’m going with lack of self-awareness

[Peter]

'Finished well last year' is perhaps an over-statement. I think what you mean is 'looked less bad then he did in the first half of the season'.

That progress has regressed. It's clear that Arteta sees it as I do and tried to get rid of him in the summer - he seems very downbeat.

Not his fault, of course. But the manager and players clearly don't trust him one iota. Sad to see and I imagine he's sold in Jan.

That will mean that both Gabi and Gyokores have gone as per my pleas last season. At least someone is listening!

The guy is basically about goals. In the second half of the season he scored consistently. I assume Wes was referring to that.

I dont see any reason to suspect a lack of trust. And lets be honest, it is only a matter of time before Havertz gets injured.

Love him or hate him, we need him. Selling him in January would be madness given our lack of alternatives.

[Rich]

The guy is basically about goals. In the second half of the season he scored consistently. I assume Wes was referring to that.

I dont see any reason to suspect a lack of trust. And lets be honest, it is only a matter of time before Havertz gets injured.

Love him or hate him, we need him. Selling him in January would be madness given our lack of alternatives.

Well we'd only sell him if we could get a replacement (Kroupi / Alvarez). If Havertz gets injured today it will be Merino up top against Brighton - I'm pretty certain of that.