Seems to be a lot of discussion around Arteta's future

[WES]

This is exactly it. Clearly our front three need a full upgrade (Saka aside maybe).

Against City Havertz will have to play up top. There is absolutely no point playing Gyokores in that game as City will play very deep with defenders that can easily mange his limited skill set.

You need to get over Gyok, Rich. You told everyone he was the worst Arsenal player you had ever seen. He made you look stupid. You apologised.

It's time to move on less you begin looking stupid again.

[WES]

But you are treating the way teams play against us as a constant. They have adapted? previously we were afforded lots of space in the PL which is why players with limited technical ability excelled. Now we face the deepest block in the league every week.

This is also why we do so well in the CL now.

The only answer (and I really mean it) is elite talent in the final third. We have very much mid range talent there now. Which makes us unusual compared to our rivals.

Yeah, because back in the Wenger years everyone came to Higbury/Emirates and attacked us for 90 minutes. No one ever put 10 men behind the ball and played for 0-0 back then. Defending deep and in numbers against us has only happened in the past few years

[Rich]

You need to get over Gyok, Rich. You told everyone he was the worst Arsenal player you had ever seen. He made you look stupid. You apologised.

It's time to move on less you begin looking stupid again.

He won't play against City in fairness. He's improved but still a liability against better teams.

[Peter]

He won't play against City in fairness. He's improved but still a liability against better teams.

He will play. Unless he gets injured against Sporting.

And I expect Havertz will play behind him, lingering as the long ball outlet to help us bypass the City press. What Arteta doesn't know, and wont have prepared for, is that Pep will have a different plan for us this time.

[WES]

He will play. Unless he gets injured against Sporting.

And I expect Havertz will play behind him, lingering as the long ball outlet to help us bypass the City press. What Arteta doesn't know, and wont have prepared for, is that Pep will have a different plan for us this time.

Our inability, or lack of desire, to pass through a high press has been with us a while, Peter. If Arteta could have solved it this season, with these players, I think he would have.

It would surprise me if City do anything other than what they did at the start of the second half in the Caraboa Cup.

Minnd you, I have no intention of watching it

[PSRB]

He won't play against City in fairness. He's improved but still a liability against better teams.

Didn't he score a hat-trick against them in the CL?

[Rich]

Didn't he score a hat-trick against them in the CL?

He certainly did - Two penalties and a goal where he had an entire half of the football pitch to run into unchallenged.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

You need to get over Gyok, Rich. You told everyone he was the worst Arsenal player you had ever seen. He made you look stupid. You apologised.

It's time to move on less you begin looking stupid again.

Meanwhile you've never ceased to look stupid telling everyone how great he is.

[WES]

Meanwhile you've never ceased to look stupid telling everyone how great he is.

That would be a fair point, Herb, had I ever said he was great, even once.

But you're talking *******s, Herb. Again.

[PSRB]

That would be a fair point, Herb, had I ever said he was great, even once.

But you're talking *******s, Herb. Again.

He does take great penalties though

[Rich]

He does take great penalties though

I'll give him that and would suggest he should take them over Saka - when both are on the pitch at the same time.

He has also improved his first touch quite significantly which is to his credit.

But is he a top PL striker? No. Nice squad option to have but he's not going to win us any titles.

[Pat Vegas]

I'll give him that and would suggest he should take them over Saka - when both are on the pitch at the same time.

He has also improved his first touch quite significantly which is to his credit.

But is he a top PL striker? No. Nice squad option to have but he's not going to win us any titles.

he might be in a different squad. hard to tell looking at the way we play.

[Peter]

Didn't he score a hat-trick against them in the CL?

Yes, but you are forgetting that he didn't have to face a low block then.

In case you are confused, the low block was invented for the first time at the start of last season, and is only ever used against Arsenal.......

But not to worry. In a startling moment of tactical genius, Arteta decided that the best way to win the league is to focus all your attention on passing sideways, winning corners and wasting time at throw ins.

And to be fair,in a season where everyone else is ****, and after spending another quarter of a billion on the squad, it nearly worked....

[Rich]

Yes, but you are forgetting that he didn't have to face a low block then.

In case you are confused, the low block was invented for the first time at the start of last season, and is only ever used against Arsenal.......

But not to worry. In a startling moment of tactical genius, Arteta decided that the best way to win the league is to focus all your attention on passing sideways, winning corners and wasting time at throw ins.

And to be fair,in a season where everyone else is ****, and after spending another quarter of a billion on the squad, it nearly worked....

I have a feeling we might win the Champions League (that has been dampened by the fact we'll face Athletico rather than Barca).

I have completely given up all hope of the PL, though. City will definitely beat us by a couple of goals on Sunday and I can't really see us winning more than one or two of our remaining league fixtures anyway.

I hate football

[Peter]

I have a feeling we might win the Champions League (that has been dampened by the fact we'll face Athletico rather than Barca).

I have completely given up all hope of the PL, though. City will definitely beat us by a couple of goals on Sunday and I can't really see us winning more than one or two of our remaining league fixtures anyway.

I hate football

I like football. I just wished we played it sometimes

We could get to the CL final. But I don't see us beating Bayern or PSG, and I don't see us turning up for a final even if we were facing someone beatable.

You cant expect player to be brave and bold when you coach them from a position of fear every ****ing day, in every ****ing game. If you coach a side to waste time for 70 minutes at Fulham to defend a 1-0 lead, you can hardly expect them to believe that they can beat the best sides in Europe.

Someone needs to tell Arteta to lighten the **** up and leave the ****ing players alone.