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Seems to be a lot of discussion around Arteta's future

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  • Seems to be a lot of discussion around Arteta's future

    Will sound odd to those outside the club but I think it is fair enough.

    This football is insufferable and has been for two years. The only justification would have been winning the title, and that is looking pretty unlikely.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Peter View Post
    Will sound odd to those outside the club but I think it is fair enough.

    This football is insufferable and has been for two years. The only justification would have been winning the title, and that is looking pretty unlikely.
    Fairly sure he has credit in the bank with the owners. We?re not known for knee jerk hiring and firing, so he?s probably safe. He?ll also escape the momentum of supporters wrath.
    The season will be over and thoughts will shift towards the World Cup. If the club make a couple of bold summer signings, it?ll buy him more time.
    The crowd will be the ultimate barometer, as always. They tend to be the catalyst for those on the board to begin shifting gears.
    I?d have him out but I?m of the view that after six seasons, things are unlikely to get significantly better.
    It?s like those companies who have peaked, then find themselves on the revenue downward slide as the market shifts. They then try to reinvent themselves in areas away from what was their core competency.
    It can occasionally works but in most cases it doesn?t.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 7sisters View Post
      Fairly sure he has credit in the bank with the owners. We?re not known for knee jerk hiring and firing, so he?s probably safe. He?ll also escape the momentum of supporters wrath.
      The season will be over and thoughts will shift towards the World Cup. If the club make a couple of bold summer signings, it?ll buy him more time.
      The crowd will be the ultimate barometer, as always. They tend to be the catalyst for those on the board to begin shifting gears.
      I?d have him out but I?m of the view that after six seasons, things are unlikely to get significantly better.
      It?s like those companies who have peaked, then find themselves on the revenue downward slide as the market shifts. They then try to reinvent themselves in areas away from what was their core competency.
      It can occasionally works but in most cases it doesn?t.
      He is due a new contract this summer. Tough to hand that out if we've blown everything again, which is looking very likely.

      He has to change the way we play next season. Fans are not going to put up with this rubbish unless we are winning things.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 7sisters View Post
        like those companies who have peaked, then find themselves on the revenue downward slide as the market shifts. They then try to reinvent themselves in areas away from what was their core competency.
        It can occasionally works but in most cases it doesn?t.
        I've seen it a few times in the software sector. A top heavy old crew of golf addicts and chancers realising the jig is up and tries to act like a start-up. New image, couple of new slogans but the energy just isn't there.
        Last edited by Herbert Augustus Chapman; 04-12-2026, 05:01 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Peter View Post
          He is due a new contract this summer. Tough to hand that out if we've blown everything again, which is looking very likely.

          He has to change the way we play next season. Fans are not going to put up with this rubbish unless we are winning things.
          He can't change the way we play. If he could change the way we play, we wouldn't be playing this way.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman View Post
            He can't change the way we play. If he could change the way we play, we wouldn't be playing this way.
            Of course he can. He changed the way we play to this rubbish. He can change it back.

            And if he cant, or doesn't want to, then he can leave.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Peter View Post
              Of course he can. He changed the way we play to this rubbish. He can change it back.

              And if he cant, or doesn't want to, then he can leave.
              The contrast of how The Arsenal play against this rampant Man City team.

              Chalk and cheese.

              We're ****ed in the Premier league race. FACT!
              Other clubs never came into my thoughts once I knew Arsenal wanted to sign me.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by IUFG View Post
                The contrast of how The Arsenal play against this rampant Man City team.

                Chalk and cheese.

                We're ****ed in the Premier league race. FACT!
                Certainly seems that way. Hard to see us turning it around from here

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman View Post
                  I've seen it a few times in the software sector. A top heavy old crew of golf addicts and chancers realising the jig is up and tries to act like a start-up. New image, couple of new slogans but the energy just isn't there.
                  It?s life, H. Arteta?s still young and would probably benefit from a new challenge. In time, he?ll get over the sleepless nights and that ringing in his ears from Arsenal fans calling him a useless git but, like Lampard, he?ll find his feet and catch a break at somewhere like Norwich.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 7sisters View Post
                    It?s life, H. Arteta?s still young and would probably benefit from a new challenge. In time, he?ll get over the sleepless nights and that ringing in his ears from Arsenal fans calling him a useless git but, like Lampard, he?ll find his feet and catch a break at somewhere like Norwich.
                    I think he should go to Spain. To Atletico to be precise. They'll be needing a new manager when we recruit Diego.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman View Post
                      He can't change the way we play. If he could change the way we play, we wouldn't be playing this way.
                      This is exactly it. Clearly our front three need a full upgrade (Saka aside maybe).

                      Against City Havertz will have to play up top. There is absolutely no point playing Gyokores in that game as City will play very deep with defenders that can easily mange his limited skill set.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Peter View Post
                        Of course he can. He changed the way we play to this rubbish. He can change it back.

                        And if he cant, or doesn't want to, then he can leave.
                        Yes. He can. But he can?t do that while competing for titles. So what do you want?

                        Don?t be obtuse.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rich View Post
                          Yes. He can. But he can?t do that while competing for titles. So what do you want?

                          Don?t be obtuse.
                          He did. And we did compete for the title. In fact, we got closer then, against a good city side, than we will this season against a **** one. And we won more points than we will this season.

                          If we had played like that this season we would have won the league. There is nothing obtuse about it.

                          This....style....of....play....does....not.....wor k!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Peter View Post
                            He did. And we did compete for the title. In fact, we got closer then, against a good city side, than we will this season against a **** one. And we won more points than we will this season.

                            If we had played like that this season we would have won the league. There is nothing obtuse about it.

                            This....style....of....play....does....not.....wor k!
                            But you are treating the way teams play against us as a constant. They have adapted? previously we were afforded lots of space in the PL which is why players with limited technical ability excelled. Now we face the deepest block in the league every week.

                            This is also why we do so well in the CL now.

                            The only answer (and I really mean it) is elite talent in the final third. We have very much mid range talent there now. Which makes us unusual compared to our rivals.

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                            • #15
                              It doesn't seem to me teams are playing deep anymore in fact they are high pressing and we don't have a clue what to do.

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