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  • #16
    Originally posted by Rich View Post
    Raya deserves to be in the 'player we could least live without' debate, for sure. What a marvellous aquisition he's been.
    Definitely. He's irreplaceable.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Rich View Post
      Raya deserves to be in the 'player we could least live without' debate, for sure. What a marvellous aquisition he's been.
      The trouble with that category is it is related to the quality of the replacement. Kepa is actually decent and I think we could cope without Raya.

      The one player we simply cannot replace is Rice. The alternatives simply cannot perform the role he plays in the side.

      This is not to understate how good Raya is. He's exceptional.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Peter View Post
        The trouble with that category is it is related to the quality of the replacement. Kepa is actually decent and I think we could cope without Raya.

        The one player we simply cannot replace is Rice. The alternatives simply cannot perform the role he plays in the side.

        This is not to understate how good Raya is. He's exceptional.
        Kepa's indecision with crosses really stands out and I don't like it
        "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

        "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by redgunamo View Post
          Kepa's indecision with crosses really stands out and I don't like it
          In comparison to Raya, yes. I don't think anyone is as good as Raya on that.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by PSRB View Post
            Totally agree on Raya. Were discussing the 2004 team in the office and the only 2 players I thought would make the first XI were Raya and Rice.....possibly Timber at RB
            Hmmmm.....Rice wouldn't get in imo. Gilberto and Vieira are pretty hard to beat.

            Saliba ahead of Kolo. And I'd pick Saka over Ljungberg.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Peter View Post
              And I'd pick Saka over Ljungberg.
              You have GOT to be joking? The same Ljungberg who was the Premier League Player of the Season when we won the double 01/02?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Peter View Post
                Hmmmm.....Rice wouldn't get in imo. Gilberto and Vieira are pretty hard to beat.

                Saliba ahead of Kolo. And I'd pick Saka over Ljungberg.
                Sorry but Rice offers a lot more than Gilberto. He can do what Gilberto did plus a whole lot more.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by John Bunnell View Post
                  You have GOT to be joking? The same Ljungberg who was the Premier League Player of the Season when we won the double 01/02?
                  Hmmm, Saka would definitely be on the bench.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Peter View Post
                    Hmmmm.....Rice wouldn't get in imo. Gilberto and Vieira are pretty hard to beat.

                    Saliba ahead of Kolo. And I'd pick Saka over Ljungberg.
                    Dec's set piece delivery vs Gilby as a double pivot?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by John Bunnell View Post
                      You have GOT to be joking? The same Ljungberg who was the Premier League Player of the Season when we won the double 01/02?
                      Yeah, the same Ljungberg. That argument is decidedly odd given that Robert Pires won the Player of The Year that season. According to the entire footballing world Freddie wasnt even the best player at Arsenal let alone in the league.

                      One run of form doesn't prove anything. Saka is a far better footballer across the board.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
                        Dec's set piece delivery vs Gilby as a double pivot?
                        Hmmm.... the corners bit is a decent point...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by PSRB View Post
                          Sorry but Rice offers a lot more than Gilberto. He can do what Gilberto did plus a whole lot more.
                          I think that is exactly why I choose Gilberto.

                          I dont doubt that Rice is a better player than Gilberto. But the role in that side is about providing a platform for Vieira to be Vieira. And as good as he is, Rice is not on the same planet as Vieira.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Peter View Post
                            Yeah, the same Ljungberg. That argument is decidedly odd given that Robert Pires won the Player of The Year that season. According to the entire footballing world Freddie wasnt even the best player at Arsenal let alone in the league.

                            One run of form doesn't prove anything. Saka is a far better footballer across the board.
                            No mate - Pires won the Arsenal Player of the Season award, Ljungberg won the Premier League POTS award which is considerably more prestigious let's be honest. Not making this a Pires Vs Ljungberg thing because I would obviously side with Pires as a bigger force, but facts are facts.

                            Saka is so unbelievably overrated it's untrue, I dunno why us Gooners **** him off like this. One trick pony - Ljungberg was a much more versatile player. Could ping a killer pass and had a far quicker brain when it came to making decisive decisions.

                            Saka is good but please can we calm down.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Peter View Post
                              I think that is exactly why I choose Gilberto.

                              I dont doubt that Rice is a better player than Gilberto. But the role in that side is about providing a platform for Vieira to be Vieira. And as good as he is, Rice is not on the same planet as Vieira.
                              Dec was a DM originally and could play that role behind PV. As well as making loads of goals from corners, and perhaps taking the off FK. Far better corner taker than Titi.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by John Bunnell View Post
                                No mate - Pires won the Arsenal Player of the Season award, Ljungberg won the Premier League POTS award which is considerably more prestigious let's be honest. Not making this a Pires Vs Ljungberg thing because I would obviously side with Pires as a bigger force, but facts are facts.

                                Saka is so unbelievably overrated it's untrue, I dunno why us Gooners **** him off like this. One trick pony - Ljungberg was a much more versatile player. Could ping a killer pass and had a far quicker brain when it came to making decisive decisions.

                                Saka is good but please can we calm down.
                                Martinelli to Al-Hilal in summer. Arsenal willing to listen to offers accroding to Ben Jacobs.

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