Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
Well actually, the CBI (as opposed to its membership) is pretty rabidly pro-EU.
Also, have you actually read that document? It's full of vague generalities and is apparently predicated on the ridiculous assumption that Europe will effectively cease to trade with us if we're outside the EU.
And executive power is pretty important, yes. The Lords cannot create or stop legislation and neither (in anything other than theory) can the Queen. On the other hand, the unelected EU Commission decides absolutely what legislation our elected representatives are or aren't allowed to vote on. They define the EU's legislative agenda completely and are utterly unaccountable to any electorate or elected body. That is utterly antithetical to democracy, since it means EU citizens cannot ever choose the political direction of the EU, but instead have it dictated to them.

And you haven't explained why not being happy with our level of domestic democratic accountability means you're happy to vote for even less democratic accountability within the EU.
Our PM appoints a comissioner just the same as every other country does, your argument is the equivalent of saying that we arent democratic because the parties appoint our PM and not us. That document is on the value of the EU to britain's businesses and, as the Leave campaign has clearly demonstrated, it's virtually impossible for anyone to predict what not being part of the EU would look like, they just chose to ignore the obvious fact that it will be a lot harder and take years to sort out.

My broader point is that democracy in this country is a sham and we'd be better trying to address the democratic deficit in our own country if we were really serious about wanting a more representative democracy.