We're going to be runners up again. :-(

[redgunamo]

He was a poet, a songwriter, a lover..... he was everything. My north, my south, my east and west.

To hear him dismissed as merely a songwriter.... that cannot stand unchallenged.

He also appeared in Miami Vice.

[Peter]

He also appeared in Miami Vice.

As did Glenn Frey

[redgunamo]

It is pretty difficult to understand but it happens in stages. Your average German could claim to not have known about the gas chambers but they knew the Jews were rounded up in ghettos. Then rounded up and removed. And never seen again. And they heard the rhetoric..... many would have heard rumours of gas chambers but it is possible to think that they wouldn't have believed it.

Just one of many examples of how thin the veneer of civilisation is. And what lurks beneath it.

In fairness, Germans have never claimed to be civilised. Not really.

They've been around for a long time, they know it's a con.

[redgunamo]

What confounds me most about 30's Germany is that the nation of Beethoven, Brecht and Einstein descended into a collective psychopathy that saw them embark on a programme of exterminating their fellow human beings, by gassing them, for simply being jewish!

They didn't descend into anything, H. They've always been that way, since time immemorial.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Nor Robbie and the boys - The Band! And Joni, don't forget Joni

And we haven't done Neil Young yet

. . . . . . .

[Peter]

In fairness, Germans have never claimed to be civilised. Not really.

They've been around for a long time, they know it's a con.

I suppose it can feel that way when other people make up the rules.

[redgunamo]

I suppose it can feel that way when other people make up the rules.

Very good people though, all the same. When they look at life around the world, they don't see too many doing it better, for longer.

[Peter]

Very good people though, all the same. When they look at life around the world, they don't see too many doing it better, for longer.

Not my cup of tea, I'm afraid. I prefer the veneer, even if it is a con

I mean, the Australians are no fans of civilisation but at least they are a laugh.... some of the time.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Someone started early

****. That's called using dictation when your missus calls from India on Signal and you answer from the desktop.

Tbf to her, while I was asleep, she used the boiler app on the phone to see that it was less than 10C so put the heating on for half an hour while Puddle Paws and me were asleep.