I heard a pundit describe us as 'like Mourinho's Chelsea, a machine...'

[Peter]

Thankfully, they binned Poch. He had them tracking in the right direction.

Very much so. On the rare occasions they actually appointed the right bloke you could always rely on Levy pushing the button at the first whiff of a problem.

Which is why I am extremely disappointed to see him go. Frank is a decent manager but you'd hope they'll sack him if he doesn't perform miracles.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

To be fair, it isn't so much the sacking of manager that is the problem. It is appointing the wrong ones. Or rather, ones that dont fit their recruitment strategies.

They are the worst example of that mismatch. Focus on buying younger players with potential to grow and then appoint the likes of Mourinho and Conte who have built a career on building squads of experienced, ready made players. It is almost as though they don't give any thought as to how you actually run a football club. They seem to think that if you can attract a big name manager it will solve all your problems.

We learned our lesson in the Emery years and we put it right with Edu and Arteta. Spurs just never seem to learn.

Didn't Dick fail to win the league with PSG?

I reckon my beloved would have done.

[redgunamo]

To be fair, it isn't so much the sacking of manager that is the problem. It is appointing the wrong ones. Or rather, ones that dont fit their recruitment strategies.

They are the worst example of that mismatch. Focus on buying younger players with potential to grow and then appoint the likes of Mourinho and Conte who have built a career on building squads of experienced, ready made players. It is almost as though they don't give any thought as to how you actually run a football club. They seem to think that if you can attract a big name manager it will solve all your problems.

We learned our lesson in the Emery years and we put it right with Edu and Arteta. Spurs just never seem to learn.

The "new" money in the game changed all that though. Now, there's no time for strategies and the only thing that can save a Premier League manager is actually winning games, especially Premier League games, especially at home.

What difference is your youth policy going to make if you've only got seven or eight months in the job, regardless of who you are.

[Peter]

The "new" money in the game changed all that though. Now, there's no time for strategies and the only thing that can save a Premier League manager is actually winning games, especially Premier League games, especially at home.

What difference is your youth policy going to make if you've only got seven or eight months in the job, regardless of who you are.

That's the whole point. If you are going to take a long term approach you have to have a coach who is good with that and you have to be patient.

If you want instant results you have to pay for them.

[Rich]

The "new" money in the game changed all that though. Now, there's no time for strategies and the only thing that can save a Premier League manager is actually winning games, especially Premier League games, especially at home.

What difference is your youth policy going to make if you've only got seven or eight months in the job, regardless of who you are.

Arteta being a notable exception, of course. Though it was clear he was onto something? he instilled a band of brothers / us agaisnt the world mentality. Even when we were languishing in 8th.

[redgunamo]

That's the whole point. If you are going to take a long term approach you have to have a coach who is good with that and you have to be patient.

If you want instant results you have to pay for them.

I'd argue we haven't even BEGUN to be patient yet, bearing in mind the catching up he has had to do just to get us to a place where we could even begin to think about winning the Premier League.

[redgunamo]

Arteta being a notable exception, of course. Though it was clear he was onto something? he instilled a band of brothers / us agaisnt the world mentality. Even when we were languishing in 8th.

Right. Hiring a rookie manager means offering lots of time, not to mention money, is more or less baked into the agreement from the start.

[Peter]

I'd argue we haven't even BEGUN to be patient yet, bearing in mind the catching up he has had to do just to get us to a place where we could even begin to think about winning the Premier League.

You mean we took a realistic assessment of where we were as a club and accepted it was a big rebuild?

That is patience. And it is beyond clubs like spurs who consistently over estimate their own importance as a club.

[redgunamo]

You mean we took a realistic assessment of where we were as a club and accepted it was a big rebuild?

That is patience. And it is beyond clubs like spurs who consistently over estimate their own importance as a club.

Yes, fair assessment. We did well.