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Gyokeres is too bloody slow. It's a marginal thing but,

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Peter View Post
    Don't know how Wrighty would get on in this premier league. It's a weird season so far. Everyone else is starting to focus heavily on set pieces as well.

    Niall Quinn would score a few....
    It?s getting a bit weird when punters and bookies are already saying it?s ours to lose and we?re not even in November .
    Games gone

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 7sisters View Post
      It?s getting a bit weird when punters and bookies are already saying it?s ours to lose and we?re not even in November .
      Games gone
      4 games ago, the Scousers had it sown up, were clearly gonna be Invincibles and we were scrapping for any form of European football.

      Almost like "let's all wait 'till Easter like we used to" doesn't get as many clicks as all this hyperbolic twaddle.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
        4 games ago, the Scousers had it sown up, were clearly gonna be Invincibles and we were scrapping for any form of European football.

        Almost like "let's all wait 'till Easter like we used to" doesn't get as many clicks as all this hyperbolic twaddle.
        Quite, until it's mathematically done, I'm not having it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Rich View Post
          We will face low blocks in at least 30 of our 38 PL games this season. Just like we have done in each of the last few seasons.

          Fortuantely Havertz is back soon and so young Victor (well he's not young - in footballing terms) will be sitting on the bench.
          I think you'll find, Rich, that Gyokeres was bought in no small part to help solve the low block problem.

          That's when you need slightly bulky no. 9s who can score with their cocks, arses, all sorts

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 7sisters View Post
            Could t score in a brothel, as the saying goes. He?ll get a few but he?s looking every inch a Championship striker from what I?ve seen so far. His best quality is his physicality. Other than that.. meh..
            Timing isn't great there, 7s, given that it was an entire two games ago that he scored two against one of the better defensive teams in Europe.

            He'll be fine, he needs time and a good run and the rest of the team to get used to him. We wanted and needed someone who can score the scruffy goals in scruffy games. He's suited to that.

            When we make the CL final I would expect to see Havertz in the team.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by WES View Post
              I think you'll find, Rich, that Gyokeres was bought in no small part to help solve the low block problem.

              That's when you need slightly bulky no. 9s who can score with their cocks, arses, all sorts
              See, I think you need tricky midgets who can turn in circles and create angles.

              The real Odegaard is the key to low blocks. We need him back.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Peter View Post
                See, I think you need tricky midgets who can turn in circles and create angles.

                The real Odegaard is the key to low blocks. We need him back.
                TBF, AW used to have a team full of tricky midgets and we still had the horseshoe of death most matches while also conceding goals.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by PSRB View Post
                  Quite, until it's mathematically done, I'm not having it.
                  And even then, we could still get docked points for kicking off with the Mancs. I'll believe it when the silverwear's in a bus driving 'round Islington and not before.

                  {Wish we'd started a ruck on the first day at OT. Then I'd have known it was nailed on.}

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Peter View Post
                    See, I think you need tricky midgets who can turn in circles and create angles.

                    The real Odegaard is the key to low blocks. We need him back.
                    Debatable, but even if I accept you are right, the midgets or Odegaard don't score the goals, you need someone like Gyokeres for that.

                    Henry, as an example, was too close to being one of those tricky players to do what we need Gyokeres to do

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by WES View Post
                      Debatable, but even if I accept you are right, the midgets or Odegaard don't score the goals, you need someone like Gyokeres for that.

                      Henry, as an example, was too close to being one of those tricky players to do what we need Gyokeres to do
                      We want Gyokeres to be Haaland but he isn't even a tenth of the goalscorer that Haaland is.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by WES View Post
                        Timing isn't great there, 7s, given that it was an entire two games ago that he scored two against one of the better defensive teams in Europe.

                        He'll be fine, he needs time and a good run and the rest of the team to get used to him. We wanted and needed someone who can score the scruffy goals in scruffy games. He's suited to that.

                        When we make the CL final I would expect to see Havertz in the team.
                        Come, come, Wes. You can?t really count either of those goals as breaking his personal goal drought. One was a fortunate deflection from a wayward scufffed shot, the other, he sort of, just got in the way.
                        Look, you could be right, it?s still early days and all that but I couldn?t help noticing George Graham in the crowd, his presence embellishing those grinding 1-0 days of old. Personally, I favour the aesthetes, the beautiful game if you will but ultimately, I?ll take an ugly, uncompromising win over an exquisite draw.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by WES View Post
                          Debatable, but even if I accept you are right, the midgets or Odegaard don't score the goals, you need someone like Gyokeres for that.

                          Henry, as an example, was too close to being one of those tricky players to do what we need Gyokeres to do
                          It's weird to me that anyone thinks that finishing is our problem. It's a lack of creativity- or more specifically, a reliance on a particular type of creativity.

                          All of our forward players can score goals. Nobody can score goals if you don't create chances or space.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Rich View Post
                            We want Gyokeres to be Haaland but he isn't even a tenth of the goalscorer that Haaland is.
                            We don't need him to be Haaland, and we don't even need him to score goals. He just needs to help US score goals.

                            Remember, no centre forward has been prolific under Arteta. Aubamayang, Laxazette, Eddie, Jesus, Havertz. All have played well but none have scored a huge amount of goals. Havertz has the best strike rate at around 1 in 2 games at centre forward.

                            We have players who can score goals. We jist need more creativity. Gyokeres can help with that without scoring.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Rich View Post
                              We want Gyokeres to be Haaland but he isn't even a tenth of the goalscorer that Haaland is.
                              I just want him to be the Gyokeres of last season, I don't expect him to be Haaland. I think he's doing okay and will get better.

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                              • #30
                                He's a handful. He's very physically strong and he makes defenders panic because of it. Anyway we're getting results and he's been leading the line so I don't see any reason to drop him. We have diminutive, tricky & fast strikers like Jesus who can turn on a two pence and fat load of use he's done for us.

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