One thing we've been lucky so far is that the misses haven't cost us.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Yesterday, Easy misses an open goal, Vik misses a tap in but it's a comfortable 2-0.

Midweek, Gabby misses a header and Leo could have had at least a couple. But it's a comfortable 2-0.

We didn't have any chances at Anfield, so it's not like we're ruing player X not taking his chance.

Likewise, the one chance we got against City, and it was a hard won, Gabby scored. As he did in Bilbao when it was 0-0. {I remember moaners here saying after he scored the winner in Madrid that he wouldn't have done it if it had really mattered. Oh, ye of little faith.}

Now the "fans" seem to be moaning about these relatively comfortable/boring 2-0 victories. We should be hammering them, they say.

Well I'd rather we had these 2-0 wins with lots of misses as long as we don't miss chances in the big games.

Look at that post-Dubai run 2 years ago. Loads of 5 and 6 nil victories but we couldn't take our chances against Villa.

Nothing would make me happier than winning every game from now on 2-0 with at least 3 missed chances every match, and the fans continually moaning that we're not winning well enough.

[Peter]

Yesterday, Easy misses an open goal, Vik misses a tap in but it's a comfortable 2-0.

Midweek, Gabby misses a header and Leo could have had at least a couple. But it's a comfortable 2-0.

We didn't have any chances at Anfield, so it's not like we're ruing player X not taking his chance.

Likewise, the one chance we got against City, and it was a hard won, Gabby scored. As he did in Bilbao when it was 0-0. {I remember moaners here saying after he scored the winner in Madrid that he wouldn't have done it if it had really mattered. Oh, ye of little faith.}

Now the "fans" seem to be moaning about these relatively comfortable/boring 2-0 victories. We should be hammering them, they say.

Well I'd rather we had these 2-0 wins with lots of misses as long as we don't miss chances in the big games.

Look at that post-Dubai run 2 years ago. Loads of 5 and 6 nil victories but we couldn't take our chances against Villa.

Nothing would make me happier than winning every game from now on 2-0 with at least 3 missed chances every match, and the fans continually moaning that we're not winning well enough.

Missing chances is fine the problem comes when you're not creating them.

Games like this are about doing enough and keeping it comfortable. You don't need to be brilliant every week. You need to be able to find answers when you need them.

We do need to create more and we do need to score more. But we have two or three key players out and two or three key ones who have just come in.

We have to keep improving. And stop getting knee injuries every week!

[PSRB]

Missing chances is fine the problem comes when you're not creating them.

Games like this are about doing enough and keeping it comfortable. You don't need to be brilliant every week. You need to be able to find answers when you need them.

We do need to create more and we do need to score more. But we have two or three key players out and two or three key ones who have just come in.

We have to keep improving. And stop getting knee injuries every week!

It was a very comfortable watch. They had 1 good chance at the start and a half chance at the end, that was it. Never looked like being anything other 3 points.

[Peter]

It was a very comfortable watch. They had 1 good chance at the start and a half chance at the end, that was it. Never looked like being anything other 3 points.

In two weeks the BBC have gone from Liverpool's certain title win and almost inevitable unbeaten season to 'can anyone stop Arsenal'

Wouldn't write off City....

[WES]

Yesterday, Easy misses an open goal, Vik misses a tap in but it's a comfortable 2-0.

Midweek, Gabby misses a header and Leo could have had at least a couple. But it's a comfortable 2-0.

We didn't have any chances at Anfield, so it's not like we're ruing player X not taking his chance.

Likewise, the one chance we got against City, and it was a hard won, Gabby scored. As he did in Bilbao when it was 0-0. {I remember moaners here saying after he scored the winner in Madrid that he wouldn't have done it if it had really mattered. Oh, ye of little faith.}

Now the "fans" seem to be moaning about these relatively comfortable/boring 2-0 victories. We should be hammering them, they say.

Well I'd rather we had these 2-0 wins with lots of misses as long as we don't miss chances in the big games.

Look at that post-Dubai run 2 years ago. Loads of 5 and 6 nil victories but we couldn't take our chances against Villa.

Nothing would make me happier than winning every game from now on 2-0 with at least 3 missed chances every match, and the fans continually moaning that we're not winning well enough.

I watched the entire match and don't recall Eze missing an open goal or Gyokeres missing a tap in.

I think you might be leveraging some artistic licence there, GG

[PSRB]

I watched the entire match and don't recall Eze missing an open goal or Gyokeres missing a tap in.

I think you might be leveraging some artistic licence there, GG

Gyokeres didn't quite reach that cross (he probably should have) and Eze blasted over when it was easier to score

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

I watched the entire match and don't recall Eze missing an open goal or Gyokeres missing a tap in.

I think you might be leveraging some artistic licence there, GG

Ok, when the ball came out to Eze after Vik's failed back heel, he was 7 yards out with the keeper on the floor and no-one directly between his foot and the back of the net. All he had to do was kick it straight. Which he did, but he hit it high.

I really don't think that's too much artistic license. It was a hard chance, in some ways harder than Dec's and that was sublime technique. It just came up a bit quicker than he hoped.

Vik's should have been a tap in. He was inches away. But he held back more than he needed to to stay onside. As long as he's behind the ball, that's fine. He checks his run too much and then is inches away from a tap in. Ok, he didn't miss the tap in, this one I grant you. He missed the chance to have a tap in by delaying his run too much. Like B had a goal disallowed for going one pace too early.

As P says, I don't mind missing chances, as long as we win. It's the not creating them that's been the issue.

[Peter]

Gyokeres didn't quite reach that cross (he probably should have) and Eze blasted over when it was easier to score

Accurate. Eze's miss was bad. Trossard grabbed him immediately to ckmfort him.

[Peter]

Gyokeres didn't quite reach that cross (he probably should have) and Eze blasted over when it was easier to score

And, by the way, that cross from Rice was amazing.

[redgunamo]

And, by the way, that cross from Rice was amazing.

Shameful failure really. Alan Smith would've scored twice from that cross, it was so good. Even Kai Havertz would've buried it.

[redgunamo]

Your Mrs will cost us.

Agreed though, we've been really good. Especially as, like the manager says, all the changes we're making and have had to make.

Yesterday, Easy misses an open goal, Vik misses a tap in but it's a comfortable 2-0.

Midweek, Gabby misses a header and Leo could have had at least a couple. But it's a comfortable 2-0.

We didn't have any chances at Anfield, so it's not like we're ruing player X not taking his chance.

Likewise, the one chance we got against City, and it was a hard won, Gabby scored. As he did in Bilbao when it was 0-0. {I remember moaners here saying after he scored the winner in Madrid that he wouldn't have done it if it had really mattered. Oh, ye of little faith.}

Now the "fans" seem to be moaning about these relatively comfortable/boring 2-0 victories. We should be hammering them, they say.

Well I'd rather we had these 2-0 wins with lots of misses as long as we don't miss chances in the big games.

Look at that post-Dubai run 2 years ago. Loads of 5 and 6 nil victories but we couldn't take our chances against Villa.

Nothing would make me happier than winning every game from now on 2-0 with at least 3 missed chances every match, and the fans continually moaning that we're not winning well enough.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Shameful failure really. Alan Smith would've scored twice from that cross, it was so good. Even Kai Havertz would've buried it.

I much prefer Reds comparing Vik with Smudger to Rich comparing him with Sesko.

[Peter]

I much prefer Reds comparing Vik with Smudger to Rich comparing him with Sesko.

To be fair, I don't think red was making a comparison.

[WES]

To be fair, I don't think red was making a comparison.

I'm positive about Gyokeres. He's big, physical and fast and gets into all the right positions. The Portuguese league is good enough that he coudn't have scored all those goals without being a decent finisher.

He's what we needed. Rice's goal as an example. His run took a central defender away from where he might have stopped Rice from scoring. He does things like that all the time. He needs to get used to us, and us to him.

But he's exactly the type of striker that we needed i.e. one who isn't good enough to focus on much more than scoring goals.

[Rich]

I'm positive about Gyokeres. He's big, physical and fast and gets into all the right positions. The Portuguese league is good enough that he coudn't have scored all those goals without being a decent finisher.

He's what we needed. Rice's goal as an example. His run took a central defender away from where he might have stopped Rice from scoring. He does things like that all the time. He needs to get used to us, and us to him.

But he's exactly the type of striker that we needed i.e. one who isn't good enough to focus on much more than scoring goals.

I would caveat by saying have you really seem him finish well (on YouTube) when he's in a tight space and has a millisecond to get his shot away. That coupled together with the way he gets shoved off the ball (this must just be poor technique) / beaten to headers by folk much smaller than him his a cause for concern.

That being said; I think there is something in what Arteta says about him doing brilliantly. I assume he's talking about occupying defenders and pulling back lines out of shape - which is something that perhaps others will benefit from.