Mentioned that I liked Bond movies and was

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

The Godfather is ****ing amazing......

I don't much like Yanks or gangsters so I wouldn't have any emotional connection with any of the characters. The thing about Roger Moore's Bond was that it was self-mockingly tongue-in-cheek. A car chase where he's driving a 2CV, for example, the slowest production car on the market.

The Spy Who Loved Me was about the first film I saw as a kid. My mum helped me write a fan letter and I got a signed photo of him in black tie with the gun pose. I must have been about 6.

[Peter]

I don't much like Yanks or gangsters so I wouldn't have any emotional connection with any of the characters. The thing about Roger Moore's Bond was that it was self-mockingly tongue-in-cheek. A car chase where he's driving a 2CV, for example, the slowest production car on the market.

The Spy Who Loved Me was about the first film I saw as a kid. My mum helped me write a fan letter and I got a signed photo of him in black tie with the gun pose. I must have been about 6.

The Godfather isn't about yanks or gangsters. It is about a Sicilian family

I don't like mafia movies either. The Godfather is different......

[PSRB]

The Godfather isn't about yanks or gangsters. It is about a Sicilian family

I don't like mafia movies either. The Godfather is different......

Goodfellas and Godfather 2 are also both excellent

[Peter]

Goodfellas and Godfather 2 are also both excellent

Goodfellas is the best of the mob movies.

I kind of just count Godfather 2 as part of the Godfather.

[redgunamo]

The Godfather is different......

Sixties paranoid hippie nonsense, imo. Star Wars too, in fairness.

And Bond

[redgunamo]

Goodfellas is the best of the mob movies.

I kind of just count Godfather 2 as part of the Godfather.

But Casino is better than Goodfellas.

[Peter]

Sixties paranoid hippie nonsense, imo. Star Wars too, in fairness.

And Bond

70s. And I wouldn't have called Vito a hippy to his face

[Peter]

But Casino is better than Goodfellas.

Casino is a bit..... daft. I do like it.

I really like the idea and the plot. But there are too many devices taken from Goodfellas and it is too violent.

[redgunamo]

70s. And I wouldn't have called Vito a hippy to his face

The novel was published in the late sixties. But in any case, all FFC's films are sixties paranoid hippie nonsense. Bloody good though sometimes, but there it is.

And Vito was a smart bloke, he could see what was happening; he understood.

[Peter]

The novel was published in the late sixties. But in any case, all FFC's films are sixties paranoid hippie nonsense. Bloody good though sometimes, but there it is.

And Vito was a smart bloke, he could see what was happening; he understood.

He said this drugs business would come to destroy us in the future. And he was right. Hence Goodfellas....

[redgunamo]

Casino is a bit..... daft. I do like it.

I really like the idea and the plot. But there are too many devices taken from Goodfellas and it is too violent.

Right. Had it been released first ..

I saw a brilliant anecdote about Joe Pesci's character. Michael Mann, the Miami Vice chap? Well he says he was at school with the real Anthony Spilotro, portrayed as "Nicky Santoro" by Joe Pesci in Casino, and years later, when he (Spilotro) heard that Mann would be making a television show about Chicago's underworld (Crime Story, starring Dennis Farina), he tried to lean on him, make him back off, keep stumm.

But what Spilotro didn't appreciate was that even then Michael Mann was an extremely well-respected non-underworld, underworld figure; he knew everybody on all sides of the law and was well liked.

Anyway, one day on the set, Farina, recently an actual Chicago detective, says to Mann, that guy over there wants to talk to you. Big fat mafia chief waddles over and says, you know that thing with that guy? You won't be hearing anything about that anymore. They found Spilotro's body the next day, buried in a cornfield with his brother, as was later depicted in Martin Scorsese's film.

[redgunamo]

He said this drugs business would come to destroy us in the future. And he was right. Hence Goodfellas....

Yes, he failed. Failed to instruct his sons in family values; all that violence, all that killing. Absent fathers, see.

[Peter]

Right. Had it been released first ..

I saw a brilliant anecdote about Joe Pesci's character. Michael Mann, the Miami Vice chap? Well he says he was at school with the real Anthony Spilotro, portrayed as "Nicky Santoro" by Joe Pesci in Casino, and years later, when he (Spilotro) heard that Mann would be making a television show about Chicago's underworld (Crime Story, starring Dennis Farina), he tried to lean on him, make him back off, keep stumm.

But what Spilotro didn't appreciate was that even then Michael Mann was an extremely well-respected non-underworld, underworld figure; he knew everybody on all sides of the law and was well liked.

Anyway, one day on the set, Farina, recently an actual Chicago detective, says to Mann, that guy over there wants to talk to you. Big fat mafia chief waddles over and says, you know that thing with that guy? You won't be hearing anything about that anymore. They found Spilotro's body the next day, buried in a cornfield with his brother, as was later depicted in Martin Scorsese's film.

That scene is horrific.....

You know the Godfather had to get the Mafia's permission to film in new York? And had to agree to remove the word mafia from the film entirely...

[Peter]

Yes, he failed. Failed to instruct his sons in family values; all that violence, all that killing. Absent fathers, see.

Oh no, not at all. He was forced to agree to it to make the peace and swore HE would not break the peace they'd made. Which is why Michael waited until he was dead before he killed the other families and moved to Vegas

The. Corleone family were reluctantly and distantly involved in drugs and got out as soon as they could.

[WES]

Oh no, not at all. He was forced to agree to it to make the peace and swore HE would not break the peace they'd made. Which is why Michael waited until he was dead before he killed the other families and moved to Vegas

The. Corleone family were reluctantly and distantly involved in drugs and got out as soon as they could.

My favourite steakhouse in NY is Sparks. You walk into the place and you feel like you might get whacked at any minute.

Gotti had Castellano killed as he was getting out of his car to have dinner at Sparks. The old boys there will also show you the room where Sinatra always ate his steaks. Signature sirloin medium rare, hash browns and creamed spinach. Good dayz.

Can't believe none of you c*nts like Bond. Bond is ace, and about as non-hippy as you can get, red. Packed with overt sexism and subtle racism.

Wonderful stuff.