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  • #31
    Originally posted by redgunamo View Post
    What actually happens to us if no-one leaves?
    Not much. But I am sure we have spent more than we planned and it will certainly mean that next summer we will need to sell.

    Also, the wage bill..... need to get a few off that.

    If we cant sell, a few will go on loan nearer the window. Which will mean we can bring in Jackson or Sterling

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Peter View Post
      Not much. But I am sure we have spent more than we planned and it will certainly mean that next summer we will need to sell.

      Also, the wage bill..... need to get a few off that.

      If we cant sell, a few will go on loan nearer the window. Which will mean we can bring in Jackson or Sterling
      Kiwior
      Vieira
      Nelson
      Zinchenko
      Lokonga

      ?100m of sales there

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      • #33
        Originally posted by PSRB View Post
        Kiwior
        Vieira
        Nelson
        Zinchenko
        Lokonga

        ?100m of sales there
        Lokonga is worth nothing, and Nelson will go on loan. Vieira the same, probably.

        Zinchenko, I am seeing figures around the 8 million mark..........

        Even if we sell Kiwior, I doubt you will see much more than around 30-40 million from that list.

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        • #34
          We already turned down 20m EUR for Vieira.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Rich View Post
            We already turned down 20m EUR for Vieira.
            I doubt that is true. And if it was, it was probably a million a year for 20 years......

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Peter View Post
              We now have the Here We Go from yer man on twitter. So that's in the bag

              This is not necessarily about Havertz..... we may have been planning it anyway but trying to sell first. And Spurs forced our hand.
              I'm not so sure.

              Eze being sounded out and linked while vultures were circling 'round youth Ethan. He signs a 5 year deal and the story suddenly goes stone dead.

              Spurs come in and hope to get the player now all heads have been turned. Arsenal fan as a kid, but 27 and playing in the CL is better than Euro Div 3.

              Yet as soon as Kai's injury is known, we move.

              We needed Kai because we need more than one fit striker. But also Vik. Without Kai {or now Eze to play as a false 9}, if Vik has a bad start he'll get shot to pieces by the press and opposing fans.

              Also, after last winter. Jeez injured. Didn't buy a striker when title was still possibly on. Then Kai gets injured after the window shut and it's all everyone talked about for the rest of the season.

              Basically, Kai's injury would have made our ?200m outlay pointless without him being replaced.

              Hopefully Kai will come back fit and firing soon. And Jeez. Then in winter, we could let someone from the forward line go, or maybe we'll have the bestest ever attack to lead us to titles.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
                I'm not so sure.

                Eze being sounded out and linked while vultures were circling 'round youth Ethan. He signs a 5 year deal and the story suddenly goes stone dead.

                Spurs come in and hope to get the player now all heads have been turned. Arsenal fan as a kid, but 27 and playing in the CL is better than Euro Div 3.

                Yet as soon as Kai's injury is known, we move.

                We needed Kai because we need more than one fit striker. But also Vik. Without Kai {or now Eze to play as a false 9}, if Vik has a bad start he'll get shot to pieces by the press and opposing fans.

                Also, after last winter. Jeez injured. Didn't buy a striker when title was still possibly on. Then Kai gets injured after the window shut and it's all everyone talked about for the rest of the season.

                Basically, Kai's injury would have made our ?200m outlay pointless without him being replaced.

                Hopefully Kai will come back fit and firing soon. And Jeez. Then in winter, we could let someone from the forward line go, or maybe we'll have the bestest ever attack to lead us to titles.
                I know, and I take your point. But it is also possible that the timing is a coincidence. Perhaps we were playing a waiting game with Eze and had to go in now because Spurs were about to close it.

                Rumours are circulating that Havertz might not be as bad as feared, and might only be out for 2-3 months....... if that turns out to be true, I don't think we will sign anyone else. We'll tough it out.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
                  I'm not so sure.

                  Eze being sounded out and linked while vultures were circling 'round youth Ethan. He signs a 5 year deal and the story suddenly goes stone dead.

                  Spurs come in and hope to get the player now all heads have been turned. Arsenal fan as a kid, but 27 and playing in the CL is better than Euro Div 3.

                  Yet as soon as Kai's injury is known, we move.

                  We needed Kai because we need more than one fit striker. But also Vik. Without Kai {or now Eze to play as a false 9}, if Vik has a bad start he'll get shot to pieces by the press and opposing fans.

                  Also, after last winter. Jeez injured. Didn't buy a striker when title was still possibly on. Then Kai gets injured after the window shut and it's all everyone talked about for the rest of the season.

                  Basically, Kai's injury would have made our ?200m outlay pointless without him being replaced.

                  Hopefully Kai will come back fit and firing soon. And Jeez. Then in winter, we could let someone from the forward line go, or maybe we'll have the bestest ever attack to lead us to titles.
                  There is another possibility. It is crazy, but hear me out............


                  We might sell Nwaneri.......

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Peter View Post
                    Lokonga is worth nothing, and Nelson will go on loan. Vieira the same, probably.

                    Zinchenko, I am seeing figures around the 8 million mark..........

                    Even if we sell Kiwior, I doubt you will see much more than around 30-40 million from that list.
                    I fully agree with you about Kiwior. That Trip-Hop band we've signed replaces Tommy and KT's left, too, with Zinny hopefully leaving.

                    We need 4 spare defenders, especially with Ricky C, JT and now BW having injury worries and MLS only playing one position. {Could he play an inverted RB and Cala as a normal LB if needed? Hope we don't have to find out.}

                    Also, I think Kiwior's worth at least €35-40. Yes, he's 25 not 22 any more. But when we bought him from Spezia, it was a gamble on whether he could step up a level.

                    Looking at home in CL 1/4s and semi shows he is. He can also play a perfectly good, non-inverted, normal LB. Scores and assists. And would be great as left of back 3 which would appeal to many furrin teams. Good passer of the ball. A Polish David O'Leary.

                    We are not gonna get a CL proven 25 year old CH who will be happy as 3rd choice for the money we can get for him. Keep him.

                    The Poles aren't gonna drop him as long as when he does play - cups, easier CL group games, sub appearances, he looks like he did at the end of last season.

                    It's a pity Palace won't give Fabio a chance. Maybe they should have gone for a loan with option on him?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Peter View Post
                      I know, and I take your point. But it is also possible that the timing is a coincidence. Perhaps we were playing a waiting game with Eze and had to go in now because Spurs were about to close it.

                      Rumours are circulating that Havertz might not be as bad as feared, and might only be out for 2-3 months....... if that turns out to be true, I don't think we will sign anyone else. We'll tough it out.
                      I don't think we'll sign anyone else but Eze whatever happens. Eze is Kai cover and now has a chance for force his way into the team in various positions. He's a bloody good player from the little I've seen of him {our games.} Always liked the lad and I normally utterly detest all the players I watch who don't have a cannon on their tits.

                      But if Levy hadn't been his usual self, haggling over add-ons and injury compensation clauses, he could have been signed at the start of the week.

                      I really do think we were happy with B/Noni-Odin/Ethan-Kai/Vik-Dec/MnM/Kai-Gabby/Leo/Noni as our front 5 options.

                      Perhaps Ethan to be tried across the line.

                      But as I said above after what happened last winter and with the spotlight on Vik, it was too much of a risk of wasting our entire summer outlay and risking our star players leaving. If we say to them, yes last year was a step back but look at all those injuries, they go yeah, that does happen. But not a second season when we could have done something.

                      If Eze and Vik time share CF for now, both are new and shiny. If one scores a goal or makes a winner, that takes the heat off the other one.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Rich View Post
                        We won't be able to register them to play in any tournaments so they will play friendly matches only.
                        Oh, right. Understood.
                        "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

                        "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
                          I don't think we'll sign anyone else but Eze whatever happens. Eze is Kai cover and now has a chance for force his way into the team in various positions. He's a bloody good player from the little I've seen of him {our games.} Always liked the lad and I normally utterly detest all the players I watch who don't have a cannon on their tits.

                          But if Levy hadn't been his usual self, haggling over add-ons and injury compensation clauses, he could have been signed at the start of the week.

                          I really do think we were happy with B/Noni-Odin/Ethan-Kai/Vik-Dec/MnM/Kai-Gabby/Leo/Noni as our front 5 options.

                          Perhaps Ethan to be tried across the line.

                          But as I said above after what happened last winter and with the spotlight on Vik, it was too much of a risk of wasting our entire summer outlay and risking our star players leaving. If we say to them, yes last year was a step back but look at all those injuries, they go yeah, that does happen. But not a second season when we could have done something.

                          If Eze and Vik time share CF for now, both are new and shiny. If one scores a goal or makes a winner, that takes the heat off the other one.
                          Eze as a centre forward...... hmmmmm..... interesting.....

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Peter View Post
                            There is another possibility. It is crazy, but hear me out............


                            We might sell Nwaneri.......
                            Loan maybe, won't sell.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Peter View Post
                              There is another possibility. It is crazy, but hear me out............


                              We might sell Nwaneri.......
                              That's not happening. He wouldn't sign the deal under that premise.

                              My view:

                              Eze is coming in to play LW / CF. But in reality he is very versatile.

                              Nwaneri will get plenty of minutes as a 10. Eze would be third choice here (he always comes in from the left for Palace).

                              We will look to recruit this Fofana kid (he's being linked by serious jounralists and EUR 40m will be enough to do it).


                              It's exactly the Fofana deal we need to do if we want to get better at selling. If it works out then great - we can let Martinelli go for 50m+. If it doesn't then we can sell Fofana for 50m+.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Rich View Post
                                That's not happening. He wouldn't sign the deal under that premise.

                                My view:

                                Eze is coming in to play LW / CF. But in reality he is very versatile.

                                Nwaneri will get plenty of minutes as a 10. Eze would be third choice here (he always comes in from the left for Palace).

                                We will look to recruit this Fofana kid (he's being linked by serious jounralists and EUR 40m will be enough to do it).


                                It's exactly the Fofana deal we need to do if we want to get better at selling. If it works out then great - we can let Martinelli go for 50m+. If it doesn't then we can sell Fofana for 50m+.
                                What if Chelsea offer 60-70 million for Nwaneri........?

                                We have spent a ****load of money this summer, around 270 million with nothing coming in. Net spend miles above everyone else.

                                200 net I could understand, just. This is now serious money. Somebody is leaving......

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