Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

First half thoughts.... Martinelli so wasteful to the point it's hard to watch.

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • First half thoughts.... Martinelli so wasteful to the point it's hard to watch.

    Saka and Nwaneri the shining lights. Norgaard solid.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Rich View Post
    Saka and Nwaneri the shining lights. Norgaard solid.
    You're not coming across as particularly objective here, Rich.

    Martinelli is in our first 11 this year, and quite rightly so.

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by WES View Post
      You're not coming across as particularly objective here, Rich.

      Martinelli is in our first 11 this year, and quite rightly so.
      Well on that showing Trossard will easily start ahead of him. Against low blocks I just find Martinelli completely ineffective/wasteful.

      Trossard looked good, though. Did himself no harm if he is indeed looking for a new challenge.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by Rich View Post
        Well on that showing Trossard will easily start ahead of him. Against low blocks I just find Martinelli completely ineffective/wasteful.

        Trossard looked good, though. Did himself no harm if he is indeed looking for a new challenge.
        The problem with Trossard, which will continued to be compounded with age, is his inability to look good over 90 minutes; whereas, Martinelli can?t push the needle beyond 15.
        I?m not sure Trossard will accept the role of super sub going into this campaign, judging by the obvious strops thrown last season.
        There?s an obvious need for an upgrade along that left channel.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by 7sisters View Post
          The problem with Trossard, which will continued to be compounded with age, is his inability to look good over 90 minutes; whereas, Martinelli can?t push the needle beyond 15.
          I?m not sure Trossard will accept the role of super sub going into this campaign, judging by the obvious strops thrown last season.
          There?s an obvious need for an upgrade along that left channel.
          I think it is about how we use and support it more than who plays there. Without question, we are not getting what we should from Martinelli. We've seen how good he can be.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Peter View Post
            I think it is about how we use and support it more than who plays there. Without question, we are not getting what we should from Martinelli. We've seen how good he can be.
            He thrives with open space. He's a very fast dribbler and an instinctive finisher. Problem is that this sort of scenario is afforded to him very little. He'd be a magnificent squad player but not a starter for me. Need someone more technical that can operate in tight spaces.

            Can't judge him on that performance alone but it was a repeat of what we have seen time and time again.

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by 7sisters View Post
              The problem with Trossard, which will continued to be compounded with age, is his inability to look good over 90 minutes; whereas, Martinelli can?t push the needle beyond 15.
              I?m not sure Trossard will accept the role of super sub going into this campaign, judging by the obvious strops thrown last season.
              There?s an obvious need for an upgrade along that left channel.
              Well I agree. A hybird of Trossard (who is suberb technically) and Martinelli's physical characteristics would be perfect.

              If only we knew of someone like that, hey?! :eyes:

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Rich View Post
                He thrives with open space. He's a very fast dribbler and an instinctive finisher. Problem is that this sort of scenario is afforded to him very little. He'd be a magnificent squad player but not a starter for me. Need someone more technical that can operate in tight spaces.

                Can't judge him on that performance alone but it was a repeat of what we have seen time and time again.
                Isolated on the touchline, against his man with a defender behind. That isn't really his strength. Madueke looks a better build for that situation.

                You want martinelli getting behind or inside his full back. But we never create it.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Peter View Post
                  Isolated on the touchline, against his man with a defender behind. That isn't really his strength. Madueke looks a better build for that situation.

                  You want martinelli getting behind or inside his full back. But we never create it.
                  Well that's quite difficult when his full back is about 18 yards from the touchline.

                  Madueke I have never once seen play on the left. I'm hoping one of Martinelli or Trossard is sold and we make a great investment on the LHS.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rich View Post
                    Well that's quite difficult when his full back is about 18 yards from the touchline.

                    Madueke I have never once seen play on the left. I'm hoping one of Martinelli or Trossard is sold and we make a great investment on the LHS.
                    MA sticks him on the touchline, so not really his fault. MA wants the defence spread as wide as possible. Plus as I've frequently said, he is incredibly diligent in his defensive duties, probably to the detriment of his forward play.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PSRB View Post
                      MA sticks him on the touchline, so not really his fault. MA wants the defence spread as wide as possible. Plus as I've frequently said, he is incredibly diligent in his defensive duties, probably to the detriment of his forward play.
                      I agree on both counts. But given that is what Arteta wants; he needs someone more technical there which Martinelli cannot offer.

                      And yes; his defensive work is second to none.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rich View Post
                        Well that's quite difficult when his full back is about 18 yards from the touchline.

                        Madueke I have never once seen play on the left. I'm hoping one of Martinelli or Trossard is sold and we make a great investment on the LHS.
                        Watch any highlights video on youtube. You will see plenty of examples of him playing on the left.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Peter View Post
                          Watch any highlights video on youtube. You will see plenty of examples of him playing on the left.
                          I think he's going to be a marvellous aquisition. Looking forward to seeing him play.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rich View Post
                            I think he's going to be a marvellous aquisition. Looking forward to seeing him play.
                            I don't know enough about him but I can see he is different to our current options. Same can be said for Gyokeres.

                            I think both are coming to help us cause more chaos. That's a good thing.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Peter View Post
                              I don't know enough about him but I can see he is different to our current options. Same can be said for Gyokeres.

                              I think both are coming to help us cause more chaos. That's a good thing.
                              We do seem to struggle to make many clear cut chances. Hopefully they do help with that.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X