The climate grift #358

[WES]

Have you any idea what the temp is in Paris atm? My mate says it's boiling over there in the '30s. They've had to leave all the parks open, closed schools and the top of the Eiffel Tower. Closed a nuke power station cos the river used to cool it was so hot. High 30s in the south of France.

In Spain it's up to 46C, that's like Delhi before monsoon comes. Wild fires in Turkey. And the heat bubble in western Europe is moving eastwards with Germany and Czech about to be hit.

When I was on the Gilets Jaunes protests in Paris before Covid, it was 19C in Feb and we were walking on the marches in tee-shirts. And as someone who lived off and on in Paris between '93 and '05, this really wasn't normal.

And I don't know about the middle ages, but in the early modern period and after, between 1607 and 1814, the Thames froze over for ice fairs seven times. In the winter of 1962-63, the Thames estuary was frozen in Herne Bay near us in Margate. You could walk out over the sea for a mile and more, by all accounts.

All the feedback loops that were predicted when I started studying this in the '90s {reading James Lovelock and the like} are coming to pass - the melting ice gaps raising temps so the forests {Amazon, Siberia, Canada etc} burn releasing more CO2 , causing the tundra permafrost in Canada and Siberia to melt, releasing CO2 and methane, all of which have happened. The next result will be the release of methane where the sub-sea oceanic plates meet - which we are starting to see - releasing loads more methane.

The last time that happened was the final part of a 6C rise that saw the Permian mass extinction 252m years ago, which saw 90% of marine species and 70% of land vertebrates go extinct.

It's all coming to pass. We live in the age of Kali Yug and we're all gonna be wiped out. I hope the cats take over.

We have 1bn years before the sun expands and boils off all the oceans. But that's more than enough time for intelligent life to evolve again - after all, the dinosaurs only went 65m years ago.

Here were those changes predicted in a 2007 book called Six Degrees:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Degrees:_Our_Future_on_a_Hotter_Planet#Contents

Have a gander and see what was predicted and compare with what we've been seeing happen in the last decade or so.

Yes, 38C yesterday and 34C right now.

Absolutely stifling. Et les Frenchies clime ne marche pas tres bien

[PSRB]

Have you any idea what the temp is in Paris atm? My mate says it's boiling over there in the '30s. They've had to leave all the parks open, closed schools and the top of the Eiffel Tower. Closed a nuke power station cos the river used to cool it was so hot. High 30s in the south of France.

In Spain it's up to 46C, that's like Delhi before monsoon comes. Wild fires in Turkey. And the heat bubble in western Europe is moving eastwards with Germany and Czech about to be hit.

When I was on the Gilets Jaunes protests in Paris before Covid, it was 19C in Feb and we were walking on the marches in tee-shirts. And as someone who lived off and on in Paris between '93 and '05, this really wasn't normal.

And I don't know about the middle ages, but in the early modern period and after, between 1607 and 1814, the Thames froze over for ice fairs seven times. In the winter of 1962-63, the Thames estuary was frozen in Herne Bay near us in Margate. You could walk out over the sea for a mile and more, by all accounts.

All the feedback loops that were predicted when I started studying this in the '90s {reading James Lovelock and the like} are coming to pass - the melting ice gaps raising temps so the forests {Amazon, Siberia, Canada etc} burn releasing more CO2 , causing the tundra permafrost in Canada and Siberia to melt, releasing CO2 and methane, all of which have happened. The next result will be the release of methane where the sub-sea oceanic plates meet - which we are starting to see - releasing loads more methane.

The last time that happened was the final part of a 6C rise that saw the Permian mass extinction 252m years ago, which saw 90% of marine species and 70% of land vertebrates go extinct.

It's all coming to pass. We live in the age of Kali Yug and we're all gonna be wiped out. I hope the cats take over.

We have 1bn years before the sun expands and boils off all the oceans. But that's more than enough time for intelligent life to evolve again - after all, the dinosaurs only went 65m years ago.

Here were those changes predicted in a 2007 book called Six Degrees:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Degrees:_Our_Future_on_a_Hotter_Planet#Contents

Have a gander and see what was predicted and compare with what we've been seeing happen in the last decade or so.

Co2 is a trace gas - 0.04%, wikipedia is basically funded by greens. It's a massive scam and a complete grift. The ice caps are not melting. In fact Antartica is actually gaining in mass and the Arctic has barely changed.

Follow the money!

[IUFG]

Co2 is a trace gas - 0.04%, wikipedia is basically funded by greens. It's a massive scam and a complete grift. The ice caps are not melting. In fact Antartica is actually gaining in mass and the Arctic has barely changed.

Follow the money!

Absolutely nothing to do with the shifting of the magnetic poles of the earth (we're overdue a pole reversal) and the movement of magma. (Have we had any eruptions recently?)

And what causes this? Cow farts and 3 litre V8s, obviously...

Anyone who believes this is caused by a gas that is a miniscule part of the environment needs to get themselves sectioned.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Yes, 38C yesterday and 34C right now.

Absolutely stifling. Et les Frenchies clime ne marche pas tres bien

It's what my mate in the 4e said. Vachement stifling. Hope you, Mrs WES and hounds are all managing to cope. Even in Margate, Puddle Paws the cat found it a bit too hot.

Yeah, you really need decent clime in that temp.

I don't know when you first went to Gay Paree in summertime buy anyone who thinks this is just normal is deluded. They've never had to open the parks at night before when I've been there.

You must know that this is really abnormal and things are deffo getting hotter.

All the best, and remember that if you wanna take Mrs Wes to my fave local restaurant on Ile St Louis, it's this won:

https://www.tripadvisor.fr/Restaurant_Review-g187147-d2051752-Reviews-L_auberge_Des_Deux_Ponts-Paris_Ile_de_France.html

Ganpati bless.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Co2 is a trace gas - 0.04%, wikipedia is basically funded by greens. It's a massive scam and a complete grift. The ice caps are not melting. In fact Antartica is actually gaining in mass and the Arctic has barely changed.

Follow the money!

If you'd clicked the wiki link, you'd have seen it was simply a page about the book. It's not making any claims itself, it's just telling you what the book was about like a wiki page of a play or film tells you the plot.

And I donate money to wiki and am one of their mil-hist editors. So I'm not really a green if I'm editing pages on the period 1914-45 being Europe's 2nd Year War or the propaganda documentaries of Humphrey Jennings in WW2.

It would have been sensible to have actually looked at the wiki page before commenting on it.

[Peter]

Absolutely nothing to do with the shifting of the magnetic poles of the earth (we're overdue a pole reversal) and the movement of magma. (Have we had any eruptions recently?)

And what causes this? Cow farts and 3 litre V8s, obviously...

Anyone who believes this is caused by a gas that is a miniscule part of the environment needs to get themselves sectioned.

I have a bit of a reputation as a smart arse, but this is one subject where I am happy to admit I know **** all.

So I hope you and PSRB are right. Although that means I hope I am being conned.... hmmm, that's a bit of a thinker. 😃

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Absolutely nothing to do with the shifting of the magnetic poles of the earth (we're overdue a pole reversal) and the movement of magma. (Have we had any eruptions recently?)

And what causes this? Cow farts and 3 litre V8s, obviously...

Anyone who believes this is caused by a gas that is a miniscule part of the environment needs to get themselves sectioned.

So you really think you know more about this than, say, James Lovelock, Companion of Honour and Fellow of the Royal Society, who came up with Gaia theory?

He invented the electron capture detector and, using it, became the first to detect the widespread presence of chlorofluorocarbons in the atmosphere. While designing scientific instruments for NASA, he developed the Gaia hypothesis. ...... He also worked for MI5 and was the real life Q.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock

And you, despite never having studied this academically, think you know more about this subject than he does?

This is as bad as speaking to the pro-Palestine lot who've only ever heard of the Balfour Declaration but know nothing about the history of Palestine from the late Ottoman period onwards when I've got a ****ing first in Imperial History.

If you really think you know more than the experts who've devoted their entire lives to studying subjects then you have no idea how academia works.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

I have a bit of a reputation as a smart arse, but this is one subject where I am happy to admit I know **** all.

So I hope you and PSRB are right. Although that means I hope I am being conned.... hmmm, that's a bit of a thinker. ��

Maybe do some reading, Peter. I have no understanding of chemistry or biology, but even I can get my head 'round the basics just by researching the academic consensus and how and why it's changed over time {like historiography when studying history.}

It makes sense. Just click that wiki page for the book Six Degrees I posted above:

"Special coverage is given to the positive feedback mechanisms that could dramatically accelerate climate change. The book explains how the release of methane hydrate and the release of methane from melting permafrost could unleash a major extinction event. Carbon cycle feedbacks, the demise of coral, the destruction of the Amazon rainforest, and extreme desertification are also described, with five or six degrees of warming potentially leading to the complete uninhabitability of the tropics and subtropics, as well as extreme water and food shortages, possibly leading to mass migration of billions of people."

[Peter]

Maybe do some reading, Peter. I have no understanding of chemistry or biology, but even I can get my head 'round the basics just by researching the academic consensus and how and why it's changed over time {like historiography when studying history.}

It makes sense. Just click that wiki page for the book Six Degrees I posted above:

"Special coverage is given to the positive feedback mechanisms that could dramatically accelerate climate change. The book explains how the release of methane hydrate and the release of methane from melting permafrost could unleash a major extinction event. Carbon cycle feedbacks, the demise of coral, the destruction of the Amazon rainforest, and extreme desertification are also described, with five or six degrees of warming potentially leading to the complete uninhabitability of the tropics and subtropics, as well as extreme water and food shortages, possibly leading to mass migration of billions of people."

At some point, I will try and give it some thought and get my head around it. Like I finally did with The Who in recent years.

But for now, I'd rather focus on cricket and war. It's just more..... fun 😁

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

At some point, I will try and give it some thought and get my head around it. Like I finally did with The Who in recent years.

But for now, I'd rather focus on cricket and war. It's just more..... fun ��

Oh, yes. Definitely wait for the end of the test series. What did you make of the first day, btw? Jaiswal and Pant both looking great again.

Also, with Jadeja batting as he can {3 FC triple-tons before he first got called up} and Washington Sunder to come, they have a much stronger tail and I worry about Tongue. Let's pray he can mop them up tomorrow.

But we really need Wood or Jofra instead.

When did we last have a top 7 so good that a Bethel couldn't get in?

But when did we have a bowling line up this weak? Branderson we always going to be impossible to replace at the same time. {Though we never thought we'd have a Brook come through while Root was still playing at the top of his game.}

Thank Ganpati Stokes is starting to get back to his best with the ball. Great to have a 4th seamer of his quality. Carse will hopefully fulfil his potential but I'm gutted Ollie Robinson didn't.

How do you reckon this game and series pan out?

[WES]

At some point, I will try and give it some thought and get my head around it. Like I finally did with The Who in recent years.

But for now, I'd rather focus on cricket and war. It's just more..... fun ��

So what conclusion have you reached on The Who, Pedro?

I decided they are distinctly second tier, some good songs but they just never reach the level that I want to listen to too much of them. Sort of like Zeppelin. And I hate Won't Get Fooled Again

[PSRB]

Oh, yes. Definitely wait for the end of the test series. What did you make of the first day, btw? Jaiswal and Pant both looking great again.

Also, with Jadeja batting as he can {3 FC triple-tons before he first got called up} and Washington Sunder to come, they have a much stronger tail and I worry about Tongue. Let's pray he can mop them up tomorrow.

But we really need Wood or Jofra instead.

When did we last have a top 7 so good that a Bethel couldn't get in?

But when did we have a bowling line up this weak? Branderson we always going to be impossible to replace at the same time. {Though we never thought we'd have a Brook come through while Root was still playing at the top of his game.}

Thank Ganpati Stokes is starting to get back to his best with the ball. Great to have a 4th seamer of his quality. Carse will hopefully fulfil his potential but I'm gutted Ollie Robinson didn't.

How do you reckon this game and series pan out?

The Indian umpire seemed slightly biased, 3x umpires call decisions that all went India's way.......

[Peter]

Oh, yes. Definitely wait for the end of the test series. What did you make of the first day, btw? Jaiswal and Pant both looking great again.

Also, with Jadeja batting as he can {3 FC triple-tons before he first got called up} and Washington Sunder to come, they have a much stronger tail and I worry about Tongue. Let's pray he can mop them up tomorrow.

But we really need Wood or Jofra instead.

When did we last have a top 7 so good that a Bethel couldn't get in?

But when did we have a bowling line up this weak? Branderson we always going to be impossible to replace at the same time. {Though we never thought we'd have a Brook come through while Root was still playing at the top of his game.}

Thank Ganpati Stokes is starting to get back to his best with the ball. Great to have a 4th seamer of his quality. Carse will hopefully fulfil his potential but I'm gutted Ollie Robinson didn't.

How do you reckon this game and series pan out?

I think the first thing is these are decent wickets, and you cannot expect to knock over India's top order. These are fine batsmen who can play in our conditions. Our own batting line up is excellent and I am excited to see Bethell play again. He looks very special.

I like Carse, and think he can do well in the Ashes. Woakes is Woakes. He bowled well yesterday but I hope for everyone's sake he doesnt bowl in the Ashes. Tongue just bowls too many bad balls.

My biggest issues with our bowling so far is a failure to bowl a consistent line. We've seen fair bounce on both wickets, and batsmen struggle when you bowl above top of off. Too often we bowl too wide, or stray to the pads. THat is not good enough.

For the Ashes, I just can't see us taking 20 wickets. I hope Archer has a miracle breakthrough, I hope Carse has a good summer and goes there confident, and I hope Atkinson comes back. But I still see us coming up horribly short.

[Peter]

So what conclusion have you reached on The Who, Pedro?

I decided they are distinctly second tier, some good songs but they just never reach the level that I want to listen to too much of them. Sort of like Zeppelin. And I hate Won't Get Fooled Again

You have to listen to them differently, they are an odd band where the rhythm section are the lead instruments. I get it now. They are fantastic at their best. If you dont like Wont Get Fooled Again then you may as well not bother with the rest....

I think Who's Next and Quadrophenia are fantastic albums.

But you are more of a Radio Gaga man, arent you

[Peter]

So you really think you know more about this than, say, James Lovelock, Companion of Honour and Fellow of the Royal Society, who came up with Gaia theory?

He invented the electron capture detector and, using it, became the first to detect the widespread presence of chlorofluorocarbons in the atmosphere. While designing scientific instruments for NASA, he developed the Gaia hypothesis. ...... He also worked for MI5 and was the real life Q.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lovelock

And you, despite never having studied this academically, think you know more about this subject than he does?

This is as bad as speaking to the pro-Palestine lot who've only ever heard of the Balfour Declaration but know nothing about the history of Palestine from the late Ottoman period onwards when I've got a ****ing first in Imperial History.

If you really think you know more than the experts who've devoted their entire lives to studying subjects then you have no idea how academia works.

Be careful with the deference to expertise, there. This is one of my concerns. You read all the experts and, as you say, you can understand it without really understanding chemisty, or biology. But you cannot challenge it....