I dont want to dampen the excitement about Dowman

[Peter]

They were but how the hell was that a penalty and red card!!! Clean through, absolutely no reason to go over and clearly fouled, utter joke!

I think the red card is why they wouldn't give the penalty. They bottled it completely.

The attempts to explain it away were pathetic. It is unfortunate, and I'd agree a red card is harsh. But it is a clear penalty. Not giving it is scandalous

[IUFG]

not sure what was wrong with him on Saturday. his passing was awful.

He was off it, for sure.

Dowman on the other hand...

[IUFG]

They were but how the hell was that a penalty and red card!!! Clean through, absolutely no reason to go over and clearly fouled, utter joke!

For me, on seeing a replay, that decision tonot give a penalty and red card is as bent as not giving a red card to van Nistelrooy for his (ahem) challenge on Cole. :fume:

[PSRB]

I think the red card is why they wouldn't give the penalty. They bottled it completely.

The attempts to explain it away were pathetic. It is unfortunate, and I'd agree a red card is harsh. But it is a clear penalty. Not giving it is scandalous

I don't think a red is harsh, it's about the clearest denial of a goalscoring opportunity that you'll see.

[Peter]

I don't think a red is harsh, it's about the clearest denial of a goalscoring opportunity that you'll see.

Yes, but it isnt deliberate. Feels harsh to have both punishments. It is the rule, I just dont like it

[WES]

I think the red card is why they wouldn't give the penalty. They bottled it completely.

The attempts to explain it away were pathetic. It is unfortunate, and I'd agree a red card is harsh. But it is a clear penalty. Not giving it is scandalous

Nice play and ball from Eze in the buildup as well.

I think he's looking much more comfortable with what is being asked of him. I don't think his role at CP was anything like the Ode role he is being asked to play now. When I watched him at CP he tended to play farther forward and out wide more often.

[Peter]

Nice play and ball from Eze in the buildup as well.

I think he's looking much more comfortable with what is being asked of him. I don't think his role at CP was anything like the Ode role he is being asked to play now. When I watched him at CP he tended to play farther forward and out wide more often.

Great ball. But when we are facing the low block he needs to drop back more. When we changed shape and he was starting from deeper he had much more influence on the game. That's where you want him.

I thought we managed the injiry time at 1-0 really well. Only threat over 7 minutes was the throw and the corner, and we won the first header at both.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Yes, but it isnt deliberate. Feels harsh to have both punishments. It is the rule, I just dont like it

But they have to implement the rule as it is. I agree that I would make a difference if it's not deliberate, but that would just open up a whole new problem over interpretation.

It would have to be a red if it's just out-side the box. After all, he would have scored, have an 85% chance {or whatever} of scoring a pen, but hardly any direct FKs go in.

But he hit his ankle on the back leg, he was miles from the ball. He had no chance of winning the tackle and stopped Kai shooting when 1-on-1 in the box.

[Peter]

But they have to implement the rule as it is. I agree that I would make a difference if it's not deliberate, but that would just open up a whole new problem over interpretation.

It would have to be a red if it's just out-side the box. After all, he would have scored, have an 85% chance {or whatever} of scoring a pen, but hardly any direct FKs go in.

But he hit his ankle on the back leg, he was miles from the ball. He had no chance of winning the tackle and stopped Kai shooting when 1-on-1 in the box.

Absolutely. I dont like the rule, but it is the rule.

Var ignoring such an obvious foul is a huge concern. And they did ignore it. This cannot possibly be put down as an error. It is a decision.

The pundits at half time were laughing about it. That's how obvious it was.

[redgunamo]

Absolutely. I dont like the rule, but it is the rule.

Var ignoring such an obvious foul is a huge concern. And they did ignore it. This cannot possibly be put down as an error. It is a decision.

The pundits at half time were laughing about it. That's how obvious it was.

Yes, ridiculous.

The only thing it could be is that (as I've suspected) the officials have long since made up their minds that Kai tends to go down a bit too easily, as they say.

[WES]

Yes, ridiculous.

The only thing it could be is that (as I've suspected) the officials have long since made up their minds that Kai tends to go down a bit too easily, as they say.

Too easily and badly, imo.

It looked like a dive even though it wasn't. Kai needs to dive better, it's the only solution

[Peter]

Too easily and badly, imo.

It looked like a dive even though it wasn't. Kai needs to dive better, it's the only solution

Var is there to ensure that bad divers still get penalties.

[PSRB]

Too easily and badly, imo.

It looked like a dive even though it wasn't. Kai needs to dive better, it's the only solution

He's a tall fella, he's always going to look slightly odd when he goes over

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

He's a tall fella, he's always going to look slightly odd when he goes over

Exactly. And they should have seen he doesn't start doing his bambi on ice impression until the studs go down his ankle.

[redgunamo]

Var is there to ensure that bad divers still get penalties.

Maybe, but cheats must never prosper, all the same.

Not saying Kai is a cheat, of course, but the principle.