And not that it matters but

[redgunamo]

So, funnily enough, the likes of Martinelli would be great if they played for anyone else, as they wouldn't have to face the low blocks?

Is that why we sit back and constantly give the ball away? Is it a cunning plan to pull the opposition out of shape?

Yes, and it's also why everyone who joins us becomes rubbish.

[Rich]

Salah wouldn't even get minutes off the bench for us.

I agree with you on that but that's because he doesn't really fit with what Arteta is trying to achieve. You cannot doubt his talent, though. Coming up on 200 Premier League goals... it would take any of our forward players between 18 and 35 seasons to get that many.

[Rich]

So, funnily enough, the likes of Martinelli would be great if they played for anyone else, as they wouldn't have to face the low blocks?

Is that why we sit back and constantly give the ball away? Is it a cunning plan to pull the opposition out of shape?

He'd be better for other sides, yes. Put him in AFC Bournemouth's side and he would score 15+ PL goals a season.

[Peter]

He'd be better for other sides, yes. Put him in AFC Bournemouth's side and he would score 15+ PL goals a season.

As he did for us, until Arteta decided that scoring goals was costing us the title.....

[Peter]

I agree with you on that but that's because he doesn't really fit with what Arteta is trying to achieve. You cannot doubt his talent, though. Coming up on 200 Premier League goals... it would take any of our forward players between 18 and 35 seasons to get that many.

I dont doubt his talent. But he is lazy, selfish and doesn't do his defensive work. Arteta wouldn't stand for that. Even if he scored 35 goals a season. If anything, that would make it worse

[Rich]

As he did for us, until Arteta decided that scoring goals was costing us the title.....

He has achieved that once, Peter. This season he has one goal. 1. Uno.

It's absolutely pathetic.

[Peter]

He has achieved that once, Peter. This season he has one goal. 1. Uno.

It's absolutely pathetic.

I know. One almost wonders how a good player can possibly suffer so badly. I mean, were it just him.....

[Rich]

I know. One almost wonders how a good player can possibly suffer so badly. I mean, were it just him.....

Think we need to give Eze another go on the left. He is someone that has the skills to excel against low blocks. Saka or Odegaard in the 10 and then Saka (if Odegaard is playing) or Madueke (if he's not) on the right. Havertz leads the line.

It's our only hope now - I know Eze might not be so good off the ball but it's **** or bust now, I fear. Play Martinelli in the CL.

[PSRB]

You think Martinelli gets in ahead of Salah, Isak or Ektitike? Even Gakpo is a better footballer (not sprinter) than him.

He's also not getting in a side with Estevao, Joao Pedro, Neto, Palmer (and others) either.

None of which play on the left wing hence Chelsea play Garnacho on the left.

[Rich]

None of which play on the left wing hence Chelsea play Garnacho on the left.

And Garnacho is a far more technically gifted player than Martinelli. 3 years younger than him too.

[PSRB]

And Garnacho is a far more technically gifted player than Martinelli. 3 years younger than him too.

Absolute nonsense

[Peter]

Think we need to give Eze another go on the left. He is someone that has the skills to excel against low blocks. Saka or Odegaard in the 10 and then Saka (if Odegaard is playing) or Madueke (if he's not) on the right. Havertz leads the line.

It's our only hope now - I know Eze might not be so good off the ball but it's **** or bust now, I fear. Play Martinelli in the CL.

Makes relatively little difference who you play in the front three when the rest of the side are camped in their own half pretending to be injured or taking 2 minutes over a throw in.

There's no change of lineup or amount of money that is going to fix this.

It is down to Arteta. He needs to give them all a pass. Tear into teams, make mistakes, whatever happens, I'll back you.

It's like the bit in Mississippi Burning when they decide to go after the bad guys by any means....

That's what we need. A complete and utter change of heart. It isnt going to happen. If anything, we will now go more negative.

[redgunamo]

Makes relatively little difference who you play in the front three when the rest of the side are camped in their own half pretending to be injured or taking 2 minutes over a throw in.

There's no change of lineup or amount of money that is going to fix this.

It is down to Arteta. He needs to give them all a pass. Tear into teams, make mistakes, whatever happens, I'll back you.

It's like the bit in Mississippi Burning when they decide to go after the bad guys by any means....

That's what we need. A complete and utter change of heart. It isnt going to happen. If anything, we will now go more negative.

Although Gene Hackman could be the man we need

[Rich]

Makes relatively little difference who you play in the front three when the rest of the side are camped in their own half pretending to be injured or taking 2 minutes over a throw in.

There's no change of lineup or amount of money that is going to fix this.

It is down to Arteta. He needs to give them all a pass. Tear into teams, make mistakes, whatever happens, I'll back you.

It's like the bit in Mississippi Burning when they decide to go after the bad guys by any means....

That's what we need. A complete and utter change of heart. It isnt going to happen. If anything, we will now go more negative.

Arteta has taken us from an absolutle nothing side to being top of the PL, FA Cup QF (assuming we beat Mansfield), CC Final, Won the CL group with a perfect record.

He gets plaudits from other top managers and many pundits. Yet Peter from AWIMB doesn't rate him.

Come on now.

[Peter]

Arteta has taken us from an absolutle nothing side to being top of the PL, FA Cup QF (assuming we beat Mansfield), CC Final, Won the CL group with a perfect record.

He gets plaudits from other top managers and many pundits. Yet Peter from AWIMB doesn't rate him.

Come on now.

Peter from Awimb loved him. He did a great job and for two years we looked wonderful.

But we have gone backwards over the last season and a half and you have to be blind not to see it.

He has become increasingly negative and the football has got worse and worse. And we are paying the price for it. And all of this with the deepest and strongest squad we have ever had.

You cant blame tactics on the players.