I understand that Leeds have lost one of their least eleven games :-(

[Rich]

And are exceptionally good at home

[Pat Vegas]

And are exceptionally good at home

Wouldn't be like Leeds to dent our title chances....

[redgunamo]

And are exceptionally good at home

I watched their match last night. Plenty of huff and puff but not much else.

Decent long throws; their chap can even reach the penalty spot.

[PSRB]

I watched their match last night. Plenty of huff and puff but not much else.

Decent long throws; their chap can even reach the penalty spot.

I didn't think they looked all that. Is at Elland Road though

[7sisters]

I didn't think they looked all that. Is at Elland Road though

Again though, if we?re not beating the likes of Leeds ?

[Peter]

I watched their match last night. Plenty of huff and puff but not much else.

Decent long throws; their chap can even reach the penalty spot.

Substitute throws for corners and that is exactly how a lot of people would describe us. With some justification.

[Peter]

Again though, if we?re not beating the likes of Leeds ?

Well we're not beating the likes of Forest.

In fact, we are rarely beating anyone away from home at the moment. Two wins from our last six away games......

[IUFG]

I didn't think they looked all that. Is at Elland Road though

Ah back in the days when I used to enjoy football. I went to Elland Road a few times. FA cup replay replays. Those games we smashed them by 4. Including the one we gave them flowers beforehand after the Istanbul stabbings.

Nelson Vivas and Olivier Dacourt scoring a free kick in the pissing rain.

Cracking ground for football tbh

[7sisters]

Well we're not beating the likes of Forest.

In fact, we are rarely beating anyone away from home at the moment. Two wins from our last six away games......

I?m wondering how long it will take for Arteta to become a hate figure. A couple of losses and a slip to third ?
I think Frank may feel he?s got off lightly in that scenario.

[IUFG]

I?m wondering how long it will take for Arteta to become a hate figure. A couple of losses and a slip to third ?
I think Frank may feel he?s got off lightly in that scenario.

There is certainly a consensus near where we sit that Arteta has to fall on his sword should he not win the PL.

I'd possibly only let him off if he then won the CL.

[Peter]

There is certainly a consensus near where we sit that Arteta has to fall on his sword should he not win the PL.

I'd possibly only let him off if he then won the CL.

I dont think he would have to leave. But he would have to substantially change his approach. I want that to happen either way.

Truth is that you could wait 20 years for a better chance to win the league than this. And even if we were to win it, we wouldn't again. Not playing like this.

[7sisters]

I dont think he would have to leave. But he would have to substantially change his approach. I want that to happen either way.

Truth is that you could wait 20 years for a better chance to win the league than this. And even if we were to win it, we wouldn't again. Not playing like this.

Really ? I think if it all comes to nought, he becomes the definitive dead man walking. The Kroenkes have had their turn in the barrel but have now proven their worth by their recent investments. There?s now talk of a ?500M stadium upgrade, which means another 10k seats to fill.
They?re not going to make exceptions for a manager who keeps going close imo

[Peter]

Really ? I think if it all comes to nought, he becomes the definitive dead man walking. The Kroenkes have had their turn in the barrel but have now proven their worth by their recent investments. There?s now talk of a ?500M stadium upgrade, which means another 10k seats to fill.
They?re not going to make exceptions for a manager who keeps going close imo

Maybe. Generally, demanding a title win or else is pretty unreasonable. But if you cant win this one......

[redgunamo]

Really ? I think if it all comes to nought, he becomes the definitive dead man walking. The Kroenkes have had their turn in the barrel but have now proven their worth by their recent investments. There?s now talk of a ?500M stadium upgrade, which means another 10k seats to fill.
They?re not going to make exceptions for a manager who keeps going close imo

Dunno. The Kroenke's know that while, yes, we have money now, "other clubs" have the same money and more and they've had it for longer. And theirs is infinite, limitless.

Like you winning a million on the football pools last weekend and your neighbour having won ten million ten years ago. You will still have alot of catching up to do.

[7sisters]

Dunno. The Kroenke's know that while, yes, we have money now, "other clubs" have the same money and more and they've had it for longer. And theirs is infinite, limitless.

Like you winning a million on the football pools last weekend and your neighbour having won ten million ten years ago. You will still have alot of catching up to do.

Ferguson stood up fairly well to the Abramovich juggernaut. The only one to do so. We were mired by stadium debt repayments, while Liverpool simply wilted.
There?s still an expectation with the neutral that Arsenal should be amongst the serious contenders, the big five, or is it 6, or 7 these days.
It puts the Kroenkes in an unenviable position.
Liverpool went a few rounds with City and managed to win a couple of titles.
We surely can?t fall back on our heels and become Spurs ?