Injuries

[Peter]

I don't believe it Ganps - VAR would have intervened, surely?

It is a subjective call. The guy who is offside doesn't do much but could be considered to be preventing the defender from defending the ball.

As far as I am aware, VAR didn't spot it. But I'm sure they will claim they did.

[Peter]

Really do think that having Havertz back will be such a big boost for us. Can't come soon enough.

Can hardly remember how good he is. Aside from 20 minutes at Old Trafford he has been gone longer than Jesus (our one).

[PSRB]

I have seen it. It is definitely offside.

I thought it didn't look right at the time but they never mentioned anything about a possible offside. This further convinces me that VAR is led by the TV comms.

[7sisters]

I have seen it. It is definitely offside.

Far more concerning is the American football style goalmouth blocking tactics. Literally pinning and scrumming a player out of the game.
One in the Chelsea box at the weekend was ridiculous.
When was this acceptable. I?m up for contact but some of these blocking efforts are WWF moves.

[Maravilloso Marvo]

Far more concerning is the American football style goalmouth blocking tactics. Literally pinning and scrumming a player out of the game.
One in the Chelsea box at the weekend was ridiculous.
When was this acceptable. I?m up for contact but some of these blocking efforts are WWF moves.

Wasn't this one of the things they were going to clamp down on this season? Although Newcastle did win a penalty and Spurs last night for exactly this. It looked a bit soft compared to what normally gets allowed these days...

[WES]

Far more concerning is the American football style goalmouth blocking tactics. Literally pinning and scrumming a player out of the game.
One in the Chelsea box at the weekend was ridiculous.
When was this acceptable. I?m up for contact but some of these blocking efforts are WWF moves.

There would be those that would argue that we are the masters of that art, 7s. And hence our success at corners.

Watch Mosquera's defending on their goal if you want to point fingers. He was in position to clear it comfortably had he been watching the ball. Think when he came to us the knock on him was that he wasn't good in the air.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

I don't believe it Ganps - VAR would have intervened, surely?

According to The Times and somewhere else. Both on the video and they showed a still picture. When the ball comes off Chav1's head, Daveed is off his line a few yards. Chav2 is closer to the goal, behind Daveed both vertically and horizontally and blocking Triphop on the line getting across to head it clear.

Not obstruction but 100% interfering with play. Bit like the argument about an offside player blocking a goalkeeper's view.

VAR checked but possibly didn't want to make such a marginal call given the sending off.

Still photo here:

https://metro.co.uk/2025/12/02/chelseas-controversial-goal-arsenal-wasnt-ruled-var-25062710/

[Peter]

There would be those that would argue that we are the masters of that art, 7s. And hence our success at corners.

Watch Mosquera's defending on their goal if you want to point fingers. He was in position to clear it comfortably had he been watching the ball. Think when he came to us the knock on him was that he wasn't good in the air.

You've stumbled into the other argument going on in the thread. That Mosquera was prevented from getting to the ball by a player in an offside position. Looks marginal to me.

Mosquera's weakness is that he isn't great on the ball. Not terrible by any means, but not as good as the others.

He seems decent in the air to me.

Hincapie's issue seems to be that he is a bit of a nutter. Looks a ****ing good player though.

[7sisters]

You've stumbled into the other argument going on in the thread. That Mosquera was prevented from getting to the ball by a player in an offside position. Looks marginal to me.

Mosquera's weakness is that he isn't great on the ball. Not terrible by any means, but not as good as the others.

He seems decent in the air to me.

Hincapie's issue seems to be that he is a bit of a nutter. Looks a ****ing good player though.

Absolutely ..

https://youtube.com/shorts/F__LH29km8g?si=hm3mzIVaWzAYpr4o

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Can hardly remember how good he is. Aside from 20 minutes at Old Trafford he has been gone longer than Jesus (our one).

As you know, I'm not that up on Abrahamic religions but I think their faith rests on the fact that He was only was only out injured for 3 days and then got resurrected before ascending to Heaven and has been with us ever since.

That, or he buggered off to the South of France with Mary Magdalene for non-stop Tantric sex that he picked up in India when he was studying Buddhism between the argument with the Pharisees in the temple aged 12/13 and coming back at 30 to perform his first miracle, turning water into "the best wine any of them had ever drunk."

India had all converted to Buddhism around 260BC when Ashoka the Great unified the gaff with a giant battle and decided peace and love was better than war, hence his pillars with the first human and animal rights in human history. This is where Jeez - that one, not ours - would have learned the basic tenets of Buddhism such as turn the other cheek and the Golden Rule, doing unto others. You really reckon He's not gonna have a gander at the Karma Sutra while he's there?

[WES]

You've stumbled into the other argument going on in the thread. That Mosquera was prevented from getting to the ball by a player in an offside position. Looks marginal to me.

Mosquera's weakness is that he isn't great on the ball. Not terrible by any means, but not as good as the others.

He seems decent in the air to me.

Hincapie's issue seems to be that he is a bit of a nutter. Looks a ****ing good player though.

When I watched the replay I didn't see their player do anything to stop Mosquera from jumping and heading the ball clear. Quite the opposite I thought, he moved towards Fernandez while ignoring the ball as it came over him.

I don't think we've seen enough of him to know how good in the air he is, but that was the criticism that was reported when we signed him.

[PSRB]

When I watched the replay I didn't see their player do anything to stop Mosquera from jumping and heading the ball clear. Quite the opposite I thought, he moved towards Fernandez while ignoring the ball as it came over him.

I don't think we've seen enough of him to know how good in the air he is, but that was the criticism that was reported when we signed him.

He's still very young! I've seen enough to think he's a definite upgrade on Kiwior (who I actually thought was okay)

[Rich]

You've stumbled into the other argument going on in the thread. That Mosquera was prevented from getting to the ball by a player in an offside position. Looks marginal to me.

Mosquera's weakness is that he isn't great on the ball. Not terrible by any means, but not as good as the others.

He seems decent in the air to me.

Hincapie's issue seems to be that he is a bit of a nutter. Looks a ****ing good player though.

I enjoyed him roaring in Neto's face. A roar that seemed to turn into a Sam Allardyce style laugh.

[Peter]

I enjoyed him roaring in Neto's face. A roar that seemed to turn into a Sam Allardyce style laugh.

It was funny, but I was roaring at him to stay away. Similar when Raya got involved with a couple of them. They're trying to suck you in. Just walk away.....

What I really liked was the tackle

[Peter]

When I watched the replay I didn't see their player do anything to stop Mosquera from jumping and heading the ball clear. Quite the opposite I thought, he moved towards Fernandez while ignoring the ball as it came over him.

I don't think we've seen enough of him to know how good in the air he is, but that was the criticism that was reported when we signed him.

I'd agree with that. But you could argue that the offside player was distracting him and therefore interfering.

Marginal call in my opinion. Not something to get worked up about and I have no problem with var not giving it.