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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Only the campness is grating. Listen to his (3 hour) interview on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast and you will struggle to disagree with anything he says.

    He's an unapologetic troll, but a smart one.
    I don't mind the campness, I just find his desire to offend a little gratuitous. Not that I'm offended by people being offended, naturally. I just think that it's worth offending someone if you have a reason to, otherwise it's just offensive.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Milo wossisname, for example. He's a bit wearing.
    He is at least bright and reasonably entertaining. Mind you, attacking SJWs is very much shooting fish in a barrel for anyone even half-intelligent. They are very much low-hanging fruit.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    I don't mind the campness, I just find his desire to offend a little gratuitous. Not that I'm offended by people being offended, naturally. I just think that it's worth offending someone if you have a reason to, otherwise it's just offensive.
    I think it's got to the point where it's becoming necessary to offend just to assert the right to do so. Avoiding offence now starts to feel like kowtowing to those who are perpetually offended.

    I'm starting to think that it's necessary to offend these people just to remind them that they haven't won.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    I don't mind the campness, I just find his desire to offend a little gratuitous. Not that I'm offended by people being offended, naturally. I just think that it's worth offending someone if you have a reason to, otherwise it's just offensive.
    I don’t think he’s particularly offensive. He said that black Ghost Busters actress looked like his ex-boyfriend, which is probably a bit rude, but I don’t think he’s said anything much worse than that.

    He did write a story under the headline, “What would you rather your child had: Islam or Cancer?” which you’d need a heart of stone not to laugh at.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    He is at least bright and reasonably entertaining. Mind you, attacking SJWs is very much shooting fish in a barrel for anyone even half-intelligent. They are very much low-hanging fruit.
    I was reading the first chapter of Tom Sharpe's Ancestral Vices recently, in which he mercilessly skewers the sanctomious, joyless, earnest lefty, in 1979. He is almost cruel. Dear God in heaven, what stuffs he would have to work with today!

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I think it's got to the point where it's becoming necessary to offend just to assert the right to do so. Avoiding offence now starts to feel like kowtowing to those who are perpetually offended.

    I'm starting to think that it's necessary to offend these people just to remind them that they haven't won.
    But if you become ill-mannered then they have won.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    I don’t think he’s particularly offensive. He said that black Ghost Busters actress looked like his ex-boyfriend, which is probably a bit rude, but I don’t think he’s said anything much worse than that.

    He did write a story under the headline, “What would you rather your child had: Islam or Cancer?” which you’d need a heart of stone not to laugh at.
    But he claims to enjoy being passed around groups of black men, which is offensive to groups of white men.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    I was reading the first chapter of Tom Sharpe's Ancestral Vices recently, in which he mercilessly skewers the sanctomious, joyless, earnest lefty, in 1979. He is almost cruel. Dear God in heaven, what stuffs he would have to work with today!
    But they're far beyond his parody of them now and showing no signs of slowing down. The illiberal, joyless, humourless, virtue-signalling, racist and anti-intellectual groupthink that now obtains in modern universities is genuinely scary. There were always right-on lefties in universities (it being their natural home), but it's now enshrined in the culture and rules of these places. To question these positions is now tantamount to heresy and punishable by witch hunt. It's genuinely bad out there and getting way past a joke.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    But he claims to enjoy being passed around groups of black men, which is offensive to groups of white men.
    Which is why I've always said your mum and him would get on like a house on fire

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    I'm a big fan of those; I particularly like the way they aren't ridiculously salty. Mind you, the little bits of carrot in the chicken ones always strike me as being a bit pointless.

    Cultural appropriation, innit? Nonsense like that and identity politics in general is causing 'the left' to look more and more out of touch with reality, which I suppose should feel like a good thing to me. But part of me suspects that the lack of a viable opposition can't be a good thing.
    Agree about the lack of a viable opposition. Especially now with Labour incompetence meaning that, as with the Brexit debate, it's basically a Tory civil war. We need to have an alternative govt in waiting ti hold the govt to account. But Lab are more concerned about their own civil war.

    re:Identity politics and the left. I have noticed in the last few years that BTL on the Graun, there is a feeling of us lefties realising that the emperor's got no clothes. Comments that a few years back would have had many replies shouting "racist" are now getting 4 figure recommends. I really do think things are changing.

    And many of us are realising that just shouting "Islamophobe" at people raising genuine concerns {as opposed to purely racist ones} has been counter productive. It hasn't made the problem go away as we had hoped, it's just leading to a rise in the far right vote across the continent.

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