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  • redgunamo
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    Originally posted by Peter View Post
    That's what the europa league and conference are for.
    But we'd rather be in the proper competition where the money is
    Right. It's a real shame sometimes. I think it was Doddie Weir who said, the best way to develop is winning

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  • Peter
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    Originally posted by redgunamo View Post
    Very good.

    It's a curious point though; on the one hand we play too much football but on the other, there's actually not enough matches. I mean, where are the games when you can try out different formations, players in alternative positions; different corner routines, three at the back, Martinelli at #9 or even on the right. Saka on the left!
    That's what the europa league and conference are for.
    But we'd rather be in the proper competition where the money is

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  • redgunamo
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    Originally posted by Peter View Post
    Desgracia
    Very good.

    It's a curious point though; on the one hand we play too much football but on the other, there's actually not enough matches. I mean, where are the games when you can try out different formations, players in alternative positions; different corner routines, three at the back, Martinelli at #9 or even on the right. Saka on the left!

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  • Peter
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    Originally posted by redgunamo View Post
    How do you say "handbrake" in Spanish.
    Desgracia

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  • redgunamo
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    Originally posted by 7sisters View Post
    They played within themselves, as they have in too many fixtures of late. I prefer to watch fluency, expression and a lot more self belief than we witnessed today. Arteta appears to be setting up formation by opta algorithm. He?s a foil farker, as they used to say, in the days before laptops. Over analysing data instead of allowing the players to do what they do well. We have such a depth of talent, it would be criminal to over shackle these players.
    Just look at what Glasner?s achieving with Palace. Much more of this and Eze will be looking over his shoulder, wondering if he?s made the right choice.
    It is of course early days but already, Arteta and his ?beautiful? take on everything is beginning to wane on me.
    How do you say "handbrake" in Spanish.

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  • 7sisters
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    Originally posted by Peter View Post
    The sort of thingn he might want to mention before the game. I'm not convinced that the players know that is what he wants from them
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    They played within themselves, as they have in too many fixtures of late. I prefer to watch fluency, expression and a lot more self belief than we witnessed today. Arteta appears to be setting up formation by opta algorithm. He?s a foil farker, as they used to say, in the days before laptops. Over analysing data instead of allowing the players to do what they do well. We have such a depth of talent, it would be criminal to over shackle these players.
    Just look at what Glasner?s achieving with Palace. Much more of this and Eze will be looking over his shoulder, wondering if he?s made the right choice.
    It is of course early days but already, Arteta and his ?beautiful? take on everything is beginning to wane on me.

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  • Peter
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    Originally posted by redgunamo View Post
    At least post-match, the boss mentioned the need to put the ball in the back of the net
    The sort of thingn he might want to mention before the game. I'm not convinced that the players know that is what he wants from them
    ....

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  • redgunamo
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    Originally posted by Peter View Post
    Our next away game is just as hard and will probably end with exactly the same result.
    At least post-match, the boss mentioned the need to put the ball in the back of the net

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  • Peter
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    Originally posted by IUFG View Post
    We've played the current champions away from home and narrowly lost.

    There are no harder fixtures left, this season.

    Onwards.
    Our next away game is just as hard and will probably end with exactly the same result.

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  • redgunamo
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    Originally posted by IUFG View Post
    We've played the current champions away from home and narrowly lost.

    There are no harder fixtures left, this season.

    Onwards.
    You're quite right, of course. I was expecting us to batter them

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  • IUFG
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    Originally posted by Peter View Post
    We're better than this. We're better than what we shovelled up last season.

    We can't keep excusing it.....
    We've played the current champions away from home and narrowly lost.

    There are no harder fixtures left, this season.

    Onwards.

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  • Peter
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    Originally posted by IUFG View Post
    When Wenger didn't play the opposition, instead relying on our game, we hammered him.

    Arteta played Liverpool today.

    Undone by a great free kick today. Let's not hammer ourselves...
    We're better than this. We're better than what we shovelled up last season.

    We can't keep excusing it.....

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  • IUFG
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    Originally posted by Peter View Post
    It is all on Arteta. This is down to him.

    We may have nobody to fear but we play as though we fear everybody and everything.

    Everyone will point to the injuries but it isn't to do with that. It is this obsession with control and managing the game.

    After that first half we shpuld have come out raring to go and thinking we won't get a better chance to win here.

    We did the opposite.
    When Wenger didn't play the opposition, instead relying on our game, we hammered him.

    Arteta played Liverpool today.

    Undone by a great free kick today. Let's not hammer ourselves...

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  • redgunamo
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    Originally posted by Peter View Post
    At what point did any midfielder look for him?
    We need to learn this, we have the players now. When Vieira joined us, you noticed the difference almost immediately.

    Just to be clear; for me, you only dominate a game when you're three or four goals up, whatever else is going on.

    Against Bournemouth they were two-nil ahead after an hour and ended up being very lucky to win.

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  • Peter
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    Originally posted by redgunamo View Post
    Probably still too soon. He did look alright but Zubi, for example, needs goals on the scoreboard to work with, otherwise he will panic as he did for the free kick/yellow card/goal.

    Basically, I want at least one midfield player to always look for the striker first. Poor old Viktor has apparently taken just three shots in three games, and all against Leeds United
    At what point did any midfielder look for him?

    They always recycle the ball. There's a time for that, and a time to start taking control of a game and dominating it. Sides that win things understand the difference. We quite clearly don't.

    Great example- what was the last time we stepped up and rescued a game in the latter stages?

    The second that goal went in it was game over. I never thought we had even the slightest hope of scoring.

    Rigid mindset, rigid thinking. We simply don't adapt to match situations, we stick to a script.

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