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Thread: Seems to be a lot of discussion around Arteta's future

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I like football. I just wished we played it sometimes

    We could get to the CL final. But I don't see us beating Bayern or PSG, and I don't see us turning up for a final even if we were facing someone beatable.

    You cant expect player to be brave and bold when you coach them from a position of fear every ****ing day, in every ****ing game. If you coach a side to waste time for 70 minutes at Fulham to defend a 1-0 lead, you can hardly expect them to believe that they can beat the best sides in Europe.

    Someone needs to tell Arteta to lighten the **** up and leave the ****ing players alone.
    I keep saying this, we have the players to play really nice attacking football. We did it against Bayern for instance but we just seem to have decided to try and defend and nick a goal. Saturday was awful.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by PSRB View Post
    I keep saying this, we have the players to play really nice attacking football. We did it against Bayern for instance but we just seem to have decided to try and defend and nick a goal. Saturday was awful.
    You can't legislate for nerves. They do funny things to people in all sports. Look how an England batting order can implode in Australia when the pressure is on. Watch a golfer with the yips putting.

    I'm sure Arteta tells them to relax but that's easier said than done. You can see how tense they are with some of the basic errors that keep being made.

    The only two solutions are to (a) win something or (b) bring in 2 or 3 players that are used to winning the biggest trophies in the sport.

    Re: solution (b); I think there might be a case for playing Gabi Jesus on the left for a bit. He can be no less effective than Martinelli or Trossard. We know he has a goal in him. We know he's very tricky. We know he's a great passer and we know he's a born winner.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post

    I'm sure Arteta tells them to relax but that's easier said than done. You can see how tense they are with some of the basic errors that keep being made.
    .
    Have you learned nothing of the intractable Arteta mindset

    I think it was Coppola who had the humour to use The Doors song, The End, at the beginning of Apocalypse Now. Those glorious helicopters flying around above the napalm.
    The inevitable hopelessness of it all.
    That?s us, that is..

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by 7sisters View Post
    Have you learned nothing of the intractable Arteta mindset

    I think it was Coppola who had the humour to use The Doors song, The End, at the beginning of Apocalypse Now. Those glorious helicopters flying around above the napalm.
    The inevitable hopelessness of it all.
    That?s us, that is..
    I disagree but I know the scene well.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    You can't legislate for nerves. They do funny things to people in all sports. Look how an England batting order can implode in Australia when the pressure is on. Watch a golfer with the yips putting.

    I'm sure Arteta tells them to relax but that's easier said than done. You can see how tense they are with some of the basic errors that keep being made.

    The only two solutions are to (a) win something or (b) bring in 2 or 3 players that are used to winning the biggest trophies in the sport.

    Re: solution (b); I think there might be a case for playing Gabi Jesus on the left for a bit. He can be no less effective than Martinelli or Trossard. We know he has a goal in him. We know he's very tricky. We know he's a great passer and we know he's a born winner.
    I'd do that. Worth a gamble. Which side did he play on when he was winning things with City?

    Jeez on the left, Kai up top, Easy at no.10. Give it a go. There's some skill and creativity in there. When are B and Odin meant to be back?

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
    Jeez on the left, Kai up top, Easy at no.10. Give it a go. There's some skill and creativity in there. When are B and Odin meant to be back?
    B = Achilles tendon, might not return this season.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by pjlincs View Post
    B = Achilles tendon, might not return this season.
    It was days rather than weeks yesterday.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    It was days rather than weeks yesterday.
    That was then. This is today's Guardian:
    'with Manchester City breathing down their necks again and major doubts about when talisman Bukayo Saka will play again due to an achilles issue' plus 'and, in the absence of Saka for the foreseeable future'.
    Apparently instead of bringing your lunch it's going to be 'No fear, pure fire' tonight :shrugs:

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by pjlincs View Post
    That was then. This is today's Guardian:
    'with Manchester City breathing down their necks again and major doubts about when talisman Bukayo Saka will play again due to an achilles issue' plus 'and, in the absence of Saka for the foreseeable future'.
    Apparently instead of bringing your lunch it's going to be 'No fear, pure fire' tonight :shrugs:
    Hearing Arteta demanding 'no fear' is a bit like hearing Hitler demanding no anti semitism.

    AFTV, quite ridiculously in my opinion, are saying he should be sacked on Monday if we lose at City......

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Hearing Arteta demanding 'no fear' is a bit like hearing Hitler demanding no anti semitism.

    AFTV, quite ridiculously in my opinion, are saying he should be sacked on Monday if we lose at City......
    If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well It were done quickly.

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