The Vinicius Jnr incident.

[redgunamo]

Not in this case, R. There?s no law against simply swearing at an opponent, so why cover up for calling him a kyunt etc. No ones getting sent off for that sort of thing, unless it?s aimed at the ref.

The old Suarez one had me worried for a bit. I felt British players in the Premier League would be unfairly disadvantaged.

[PSRB]

Clearly he winds people up. But regardless of that, it cannot be used to justify any form of racism back to him. We're meant to be kicking it out. Best way is a crunching tackle 30 seconds after the restart imo.

Agree completely. His defence is, it was homophobic not racist.....yeah, cause that's much better.

[Peter]

Agree completely. His defence is, it was homophobic not racist.....yeah, cause that's much better.

In football, it kind of is. Are we committed to kicking homophobia out of football?

We've raised the significance of racism, for obvious reasons, above all others.

[redgunamo]

In football, it kind of is. Are we committed to kicking homophobia out of football?

We've raised the significance of racism, for obvious reasons, above all others.

Yes, I understand there's a sort of ladder or league table of grievance. When choosing a school, my folks were informed that, being Henley shrinks rather than, for example, Hackney ones, they would have to pay up full wack. Fair enough, of course; anything to get the brat out of the house. But still lol

[Peter]

Yes, I understand there's a sort of ladder or league table of grievance. When choosing a school, my folks were informed that, being Henley shrinks rather than, for example, Hackney ones, they would have to pay up full wack. Fair enough, of course; anything to get the brat out of the house. But still lol

Well, homophobia isnt a problem in football as we dont allow poofters in the game.

[redgunamo]

Well, homophobia isnt a problem in football as we dont allow poofters in the game.

Right. Same reason people living in town believe the sticks simply must be jumping with racists.

My father-in law once explained that, in his government, unlike in America and Great Britain, they do not have problems with Jews dictating policy. "Nicht mehr."

[Peter]

Right. Same reason people living in town believe the sticks simply must be jumping with racists.

My father-in law once explained that, in his government, unlike in America and Great Britain, they do not have problems with Jews dictating policy. "Nicht mehr."

Some family Christmas that must have been.

You wouldn't want to stick Leonard Cohen on to cheer things up....

[WES]

Agree completely. His defence is, it was homophobic not racist.....yeah, cause that's much better.

If I'm honest, a homophobic slur to someone very unlikely to be a homosexual is not the same as a racist slur directed at a black player for me.

Possibly because when I grew up playing football, hockey, basketball etc, it was rare to finish a game without at some point calling a member of the opposition a f@ggot. It's just what you did if the p1ssed you off.

[Peter]

If I'm honest, a homophobic slur to someone very unlikely to be a homosexual is not the same as a racist slur directed at a black player for me.

Possibly because when I grew up playing football, hockey, basketball etc, it was rare to finish a game without at some point calling a member of the opposition a f@ggot. It's just what you did if the p1ssed you off.

Different era, Wes. But I do think you are right about the impact. I mean, if someone called me a poof I wouldn't run to the ref. I would just think he was a ****.

A copper once tried to.convince me that saying the n word to a white person was just as bad as saying it a black person. I just looked at him with a 'are you ****ing serious' face and he kind of gave me this look back and shrug that said 'I know it's *******s but we're told to say it'....