Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
He was a passenger for the most part. But he wasnt the Havertz we have now. He looked a shell of a footballer after a bad time at Chelsea.

Point is, you could see He was a very good footballer even when he was playing badly.
Well that might have been your view but if so it was very much at odds with the most common narrative on here. Lanky streak of piss, comes to mind

Anyway, the real point is that judging a footballer on 1/2 a season of football is a fools game. And that applies equally to a large number of very good footballers, including Henry and Pires.