Terrific start to the match.

[redgunamo]

Lively, brisk play on both sides

[Peter]

Lively, brisk play on both sides

What on earth is happening here?

VAR is working!

[redgunamo]

What on earth is happening here?

VAR is working!

And in our favour!

[WES]

In the PL VAR would have ignored both of those

Pathetic

[Peter]

In the PL VAR would have ignored both of those

Pathetic

Was thinking exactly the same. No way var in England gives the first one,. And I'd be amazed if they overturned the second.

[pjlincs]

Was thinking exactly the same. No way var in England gives the first one,. And I'd be amazed if they overturned the second.

Whilst I was extremely pleased it was overturned, it patently wasn't a 'clear and obvious' error if it takes five minutes to come to a decision.

[redgunamo]

Whilst I was extremely pleased it was overturned, it patently wasn't a 'clear and obvious' error if it takes five minutes to come to a decision.

Right. The thinking, such as it is, seems to be that the error only becomes clear and obvious once you have studied it for five minutes

[Peter]

Right. The thinking, such as it is, seems to be that the error only becomes clear and obvious once you have studied it for five minutes

The language is troubling. They tend to interpet 'clear and obvious' as factual. So if there is any contact at all, they wont overturn.

Everyone can see immediately that it isn't a penalty. Surely that is clear and obvious enough?

[redgunamo]

The language is troubling. They tend to interpet 'clear and obvious' as factual. So if there is any contact at all, they wont overturn.

Everyone can see immediately that it isn't a penalty. Surely that is clear and obvious enough?

I always like to say, with not a little justification, that "The Game is more important than its laws". Whether football itself will ultimately prove to be more important than this insistence on broadening and widening the use of VAR is sadly not so clear and obvious, to pinch a phrase.