Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
You don't think that Muslims who were born in this country are anymore integrated than their parents who came here from Pakistan or Bangladesh, as examples? Seriously?

Of course they are. And the people in our Muslim communities who don't want to integrate are in the minority and almost overwhelmingly immigrants. You're taking a small segment of these communities and elevating their views as though it was some sort of standard for all Muslims.

It isn't.

No. In fact, in many cases, second and third-generation muslims are proving MORE conservative and LESS integrated into our societies than their parents as they seek an identity in more and more extreme types of Islam. This is a demonstrable social phenomenon. Look at most of our home-grown islamic terrorists - born and bred here, but far more extreme than their parents' generation.

Muslims marry outside their communities less than any other ethnic group in this country - indeed they marry within their families more than any other ethnic group. They deliberately ghettoise themselves in distinct areas and set up separate schools, while their religious and cultural traditions - quite deliberately - reinforce division and make their social integration with other ethnic groups incredibly difficult.

Basically, every aspect of UK islamic culture is explicitly telling the rest of us to fvck off. Which part of the hint aren't you getting?