Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
Neither does it mean it wasn't racist. Its a perfectly reasonable point to raise in a conversation about gun violence in the black community. To shoot straight to it in response to a statement about gun crime, and claim it is the only issue is just poor.

Of course, it is a circular argument. How many of those black kids dont have a dad because their dad was shot? The circular nature of the argument makes this tight-arse, family values, social conservative version of post hoc ergo propter hoc all the more questionable.

In short, I would argue there are a million and one potential causes of black on black gun violence. Blaming it on african american absent fathers is effectively reverting to the slogan 'guns dont kill people, black people kill people'. It pleases the blame squarely on black men themselves
I’m struggling with the idea that black men shouldn’t be held responsible for committing a disproportionate amount of gun crime (and other violent crime). If it isn’t the fault of the perpetrators, whose fault is it?

If I didn’t know better, I’d think you had the classical ‘progressive’ white attitude where you regard black people as poor, benighted savages who can’t possibly be held to the same standards of personal responsibility as whitey.