Not bad from the Daily Smash really

[Burney]

That really was quite the rant, wasn't it?

Can there really be no hope of recovery? Ever? It sounds awfully serious, b.

The hysteria is being ramped up again. Only out-and-out disaster will satisfy those who are outraged by the evil masses daring to defy them. Only by ascribing the greatest possible stupidity and basest possible motives to their opponents can they make sense of it. The alternative, of course, is having to countenance the possibility that there may be good, decent, honourable and rational reasons for voting Leave. And, since their entire identity is predicated upon being in sole possession of decency, honour and rationally that will never do.

[Burney]

Ooh yes, it creeps up on you, French cider. I remember a peculiarly unpleasant incident in a galeterie in, of all places, Rocamadour.

Will you punish the errant hound, r?

I rather like it - the Norman variety anyway. Bit sweet, maybe, but not bad.

[Sir C]

I rather like it - the Norman variety anyway. Bit sweet, maybe, but not bad.

It's the sweetness that lowers one's defences; one necks bowl after bowl of the wretched stuff and then, suddenly, BLAM! De Gaulle's revenge. Furthermore, a galette lacks the substance to soak up the alcohol.

All in all, a dangerous business.

[redgunamo]

Ooh yes, it creeps up on you, French cider. I remember a peculiarly unpleasant incident in a galeterie in, of all places, Rocamadour.

Will you punish the errant hound, r?

It certainly does. My father and I weren't quite ourselves for a few hours and unavailable for comment, but we are led to believe, rather too loudly and in an unnecessarily harsh tone of voice, I felt, that the crime-wave continued on into the evening and involved, among other items, a family-sized suckling pig and a lady's hat.

Thing is, punishing salukis is simply not done; their persons are sacred, a gift from Allah. That's why the world is in such a mess, I suppose

[Burney]

It certainly does. My father and I weren't quite ourselves for a few hours and unavailable for comment, but we are led to believe, rather too loudly and in an unnecessarily harsh tone of voice, I felt, that the crime-wave continued on into the evening and involved, among other items, a family-sized suckling pig and a lady's hat.

Thing is, punishing salukis is simply not done; their persons are sacred, a gift from Allah. That's why the world is in such a mess, I suppose

I assume you put the hat on the pig?

[redgunamo]

I assume you put the hat on the pig?

The pig was gone. Hounds don't mess about when there's stolen roast pork going. And to Pluto with the hat, probably the mother-in-law's.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

I do find it funny how you lefties care about 'prosperity' and the environment for business and corporatism all of a sudden.

And what I object to is not the piss taking, it's the lazy, sneering, blinkered, ignorant, snobbish, reflexive, hysterical, dishonest and frankly humourless nature of it - all traits evident in your post and all too common among Remainers as a species.

Come on, B, I've always been one of those centre-lefties who wants growth as high as poss to raise tax revenue to help the disadvantaged.

No point in bringing everyone down to equality in poverty.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

That really was quite the rant, wasn't it?

Can there really be no hope of recovery? Ever? It sounds awfully serious, b.

No, C. I'm only ranting 2 things really.

1. It could be the case that we become poorer than we would have been had we stayed and we never get back to where we would have been. eg that our GDP per capita drops from French towards Spanish levels and then never ever gets back to equality with France. This is a possibility.

2. It could be the case that the country is too divided to fix, especially with these spineless ****wits on both sides of the HoC. We could have some form of civil strife as one half of the country blames the other for the **** up, and we could have extremist populists telling the Brexiters that it's not their fault that they are poorer, it's because they've been stabbed in the back by traitors a bit like Germans after WW1.

While 2 is still far, far less likely than 1, it is an outside possibility which should be considered.

[AFC East]

Given up on the Mash since it decided to turn itself into yet another mouthpiece for lefty wÃ*nkerdom.

Seriously? It's not Private Eye ffs. You're missing out on some Corbyn gold.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

The alternative, of course, is having to countenance the possibility that there may be good, decent, honourable and rational reasons for voting Leave. And, since their entire identity is predicated upon being in sole possession of decency, honour and rationally that will never do.

Yes there could. And if you are one of those, fine. If you care so much about sovereignty or the wrongs of the EU that you are prepared to see the nation become poorer in exchange for leaving, then fine. You were given the choice to vote for that and you have.

But there are a lot of people who aren't as bright, who believed the *******s about having your cake and eating it etc, who didn't vote to make themselves poorer and are going to be shocked if this comes to pass.

One sister-in-law in Cornwall is lovely but not the best educated. She doesn't even understand what taxes go on, for example. She didn't realise that Cornwall was a net EU beneficiary, and when arguing with my beloved (her sister) some months back, while it's dawning on her now that things may not be the milk and honey promised, she's convinced herself that Brexit will only hurt the London economy, not Cornwall's. {This is when my babe asked her about damaging the City and all the taxes they pay, and sis-in-law asked what taxes get spent on.}

She's not a racist, has no problem with immigrants as there aren't any down there, and doesn't even know what sovereignty means or what the ECJ is.

But she was voting out.

Why? In her words "To **** the lot of them."

Her seat is a safe Tory one. This was her one chance, in her mind, to have her voice heard and she was just going to tell all of them to get screwed.

That is what the vote meant to her, and her vote counts just as much as yours and mine despite the different level of analysis behind our respective decisions.

You have to accept that there are many voters like this, and that if we get poorer, a lot poorer, they won't blame themselves for not having researched it enough. Someone will have cheated them.

As I say, all this is a hypothetical discussion predicated on the assumption that we do become noticeably poorer, which is a possibility.