Bands you thought you didn't like but now you do.

[Sir C]

No. Still don't see what that's all about. He just growls.

No one better evokes a smokey bar at 1 a.m.

[Burney]

No one better evokes a smokey bar at 1 a.m.

You don't like smokey bars at 1am. You like cocktail lounges due to being a gurt big ponce.

I put it to you that you would not seek to be anywhere near the sort of bar Tom Waits evokes at 1am or any other time.

[redgunamo]

We bought tickets for my daughter to go see Little Mix in the O2.

There followed the beginning of a conversation about who would attend with her, the conversation started then dwindled then died off within about 7 seconds.

loooooooooool. Yep, been there many times. The wife takes her revenge by making them see Depeche Mode or Guns & Roses or some such ****e.

My boy goes to school in Dusseldorf and Kraftwerk were playing there for free the other day (for the TdF, of course) so, during a quiet stroll with the dogs, I made the poor little mite stand by there in the park for twenty minutes and listen. Cruel to be kind, I call it.

[SWv2]

Ah, SW. A small threadjack if you don't mind.

The GDPR doesn't apply to data about companies, as I understand it, only people. But presumably it applies to people-at-companies, even when the only data stored about them are contact details at the companies.

So do you know what happens when a prospective customer phones up with an enquiry?

Customer: Hello, I am interested in hiring some event space.
Salesperson: Excellent sir, you have come to the right place. Now, before I write your name and phone number down I need you to sign a consent form, having first read and understood everything that we might do to process your data in the usual business of doing business.
Customer: Oh please, no. *puts phone down

Also, rotational backups and the 'right to be forgotten'. You can't practically go around deleting records from all of your backups going back months and years everytime someone de-consents, but without doing this the person hasn't entirely been forgotten. Clearly the only answer to to this problem is to ignore it.

And as for duplicate records -- ouch. "Sorry sir, we only forgot one of you".

The GDPR doesn't apply to data about companies – correct but then the issue becomes clouded by what is or is not a company e.g. sole trader where a person’s business contact details are the same as his personal – gmail accounts, mobile telephone numbers.

GDPR defines personal data as "any information relating to an identified or identifiable natural person ("data subject"); an identifiable person is one who can be identified, directly or indirectly, in particular by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number,location data, online identifier or to one or more factors specific to the physical, physiological,genetic, mental, economic, cultural or social identity of that person."

For some organisations, the explicit inclusion of location data, online identifiers and genetic data within the definition of "personal data" may result in additional compliance obligations (e.g., for online advertising businesses, many types of cookies become personal data under the GDPR, because those cookies constitute "online identifiers")

In respect of your phonecall scenario then I believe yes you would need to obtain consent (in a tangible form) for the retention of any data specific to whatever future use of the data you plan – marketing, profiling etc. If you do not capture said consent at the time then you cannot then use it in the future for that purpose.

Backups I think may be out of scope but not sure, archived data may not be seen as a structured filing system which in turn is easy and/or practical to analyse as you point out.


So effectively person at a company can be in scope as the data could be used indirectly using said data


In summary it is a complete mind fúck.

[Sir C]

You don't like smokey bars at 1am. You like cocktail lounges due to being a gurt big ponce.

I put it to you that you would not seek to be anywhere near the sort of bar Tom Waits evokes at 1am or any other time.

I might have liked such a bar once upon a time - and, better still, I need not visit the bar, as Tom will bring it to my living room.

[Burney]

loooooooooool. Yep, been there many times. The wife takes her revenge by making them see Depeche Mode or Guns & Roses or some such ****e.

My boy goes to school in Dusseldorf and Kraftwerk were playing there for free the other day (for the TdF, of course) so, during a quiet stroll with the dogs, I made the poor little mite stand by there in the park for twenty minutes and listen. Cruel to be kind, I call it.

Nobody really wants to stand about listening to Kraftwerk, though, surely? I'd have thought even Germans would draw the line at watching three largely motionless men in late middle age making electronic beeps and whistles?

[SWv2]

No one better evokes a smokey bar at 1 a.m.

Hmmm, what about the smoking ban eh?

[SWv2]

Nobody really wants to stand about listening to Kraftwerk, though, surely? I'd have thought even Germans would draw the line at watching three largely motionless men in late middle age making electronic beeps and whistles?

I went to see them in the Olympia about 10 years ago, midweek, school night etc, work the next day.

Now that was a bad fúcking plan.

[Luis Anaconda]

Nobody really wants to stand about listening to Kraftwerk, though, surely? I'd have thought even Germans would draw the line at watching three largely motionless men in late middle age making electronic beeps and whistles?

Kostenlos, b, it is truly magical word to the Germans

[redgunamo]

Nobody really wants to stand about listening to Kraftwerk, though, surely? I'd have thought even Germans would draw the line at watching three largely motionless men in late middle age making electronic beeps and whistles?

Oh, no; they're mad for all that. Paul van Dyk, Scooter, Westbam, Front 242 ( ); all Germans.

My dogs certainly didn't like it a bit, but kids should always think their parents' music is crap; you know they've matured correctly when they begin to understand that it's actually quite alright.