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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Woolly, unsubstantiated *******s.
    You're surely not denying that Blair's governments oversaw some of the most sinister restrictions of free speech, individual rights and expansion of state powers witnessed in peacetime since Lord Liverpool?

  2. #22

    No, Peter's right that it all pre-dates Blair.

    In my view, the pill was the real game-changer. Anyway, its wide availability.

    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Sorry, no. The infantilisation of society was a phenomenon of which your chum Anthony Charles Lynton was the harbinger. Dressed up as a caring antidote to hard-hearted Thatcherism, his governments in fact encouraged people to abdicate responsibility for themselves and let the state take over. This state-knows-best attitude was then used open the door to increased state interference in private and public behaviour and discourse, culminating in the draconian state policing of language and behaviour we have today.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    You're surely not denying that Blair's governments oversaw some of the most sinister restrictions of free speech, individual rights and expansion of state powers witnessed in peacetime since Lord Liverpool?
    Of course I am, its utter *******s. Since Thatcher, perhaps

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    You're surely not denying that Blair's governments oversaw some of the most sinister restrictions of free speech, individual rights and expansion of state powers witnessed in peacetime since Lord Liverpool?
    And these expansions of state powers have all been rolled back, presumably, over the last seven years.

    Oh.

    Now I dislike Toniblair a lot more than the next man, and agree that the the trends you describe have developed over recent years and decades, but I don't think you can pin it exclusively on him or his party.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    I'm going postal for the GE. It gives me the horrors having to walk into a school hall; I start panicking that I'm late for double physics and haven't done my homework.
    I have nightmares about this sort of thing all the time. Last night I retook all of my O-Levels attempting to get better grades.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Local elections elect Local Councils. Speed humps, street lighting and binmen. Not exactly the work of great statesmen.
    Yet getting the rubbish taken away is one of the most important things in our day-to-day lives, and something we are all happier paying our local taxes for than for, say, buildings full of diversity officers.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    And these expansions of state powers have all been rolled back, presumably, over the last seven years.

    Oh.

    Now I dislike Toniblair a lot more than the next man, and agree that the the trends you describe have developed over recent years and decades, but I don't think you can pin it exclusively on him or his party.
    It's a result of creeping cultural Marxism which started at universities in the 60s with socilaist professors proselytising the propaganda fed to them by the KGB in order to undermine and weaken our society, accelerated courtesy of the brainwashing of the 'alternative' 80s and then reached a fever pitch under Blair and his acolytes. The problem of course, is that the holy scriptures of this leftist manifesto have become so prevalent and mainstream that it would take a government with some serious balls to challenge them and begin rowing back the greatest absurdities, so even when we got a Conservative government under Cameron and Osborne, not only did they ignore the nonsense, they even added such gems as 'marriage' for Adam and Steve.

    We need a strong, stable dictatorship, compulsory military service, and probably a big, big war to get back to some form of reality.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    I have nightmares about this sort of thing all the time. Last night I retook all of my O-Levels attempting to get better grades.
    I have a recurring one in which I am due to sit an exam for a course when I didn't attend any lectures/tutorials all year. The weird thing is I am often more worried about my nominal tutor invigilating the exam and not allowing me to take it than not being able to answer any questions. I prefer that one to the other when I am due in to bat and I can't put my pads on - that's terrifying

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    It's a result of creeping cultural Marxism which started at universities in the 60s with socilaist professors proselytising the propaganda fed to them by the KGB in order to undermine and weaken our society, accelerated courtesy of the brainwashing of the 'alternative' 80s and then reached a fever pitch under Blair and his acolytes. The problem of course, is that the holy scriptures of this leftist manifesto have become so prevalent and mainstream that it would take a government with some serious balls to challenge them and begin rowing back the greatest absurdities, so even when we got a Conservative government under Cameron and Osborne, not only did they ignore the nonsense, they even added such gems as 'marriage' for Adam and Steve.

    We need a strong, stable dictatorship, compulsory military service, and probably a big, big war to get back to some form of reality.
    Theresa - is that you?

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    And these expansions of state powers have all been rolled back, presumably, over the last seven years.

    Oh.

    Now I dislike Toniblair a lot more than the next man, and agree that the the trends you describe have developed over recent years and decades, but I don't think you can pin it exclusively on him or his party.
    Oh, no. I wasn't suggesting they had been rolled back. Once you give governments these kind of powers, they don't tend to give them back without a fight. However, my point is that Blair's governments were singularly fond of this sort of thing and he used his big majorities to get them through.

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