Speaking of getting slaughtered, I went to the bull fighting in Sevilla on Saturday

[Burney]

Oh I attach no moral judgement here, b. Each to their own and all that.

I mean, I hate strip clubs but I appreciate that other people love them. I just know its not for me.

Strip clubs. Ewwww, no.

They bring out my odd puritanical streak for some reason.

[Burney]

Yes, one suspects that Peter wouldn't be averse to watching a certain Abbott being strung up

You'd need a fûcking strong tree branch.

[Peter]

Surely that would depend entirely upon *who* was for it?

Not really. Any form of murder is a bit of a channel changer for me

[Sir C]

At least when the Romans did this stuff the animals had a chance of taking some of the buggers with them. Indeed, the Spanish fighting bull was considered the most dangerous of all the animals in the arena due to strength, speed and sheer ferocity. This is why the picadors are necessary. In a fair go between some dago ponce in tights and a fit bull, there'd only ever be one winner.

I like it when the ponce gets a horn up his bottom. I like to imagine the damage it does to his internal organs. Sometimes I draw pictures of ruptured spleens, kidney and intestines and colour them in. Mainly in red.

[Peter]

Strip clubs. Ewwww, no.

They bring out my odd puritanical streak for some reason.

They just make me feel uncomfortable. I think it is because I know what the men are thinking

[Burney]

I like it when the ponce gets a horn up his bottom. I like to imagine the damage it does to his internal organs. Sometimes I draw pictures of ruptured spleens, kidney and intestines and colour them in. Mainly in red.

This was a recent favourite. Although I saw someone got one in the face recently.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...thumbs-up.html

[Burney]

They just make me feel uncomfortable. I think it is because I know what the men are thinking

Yes. That's definitely part of it. A roomful of sexually excited men isn't my idea of a good time. Equally, there's an air of desperation about them that I normally associate with bookies and Wetherspoons.

[redgunamo]

I dunno. I agree, of course, but am also conscious that to feel like that is a fairly recent phenomenon. Watching and enjoying the torture of animals has been a facet of human nature for a very, very long time. So, while we may find it abhorrent, we probably need to acknowledge that our abhorrence is the exception rather than the rule in human historical terms and is representative of a very specific set of cultural and societal mores.

I mean, they're obviously the right cultural and societal mores, but still.

I'm not so sure. There hardly seems any point a society being so sophisticated and "moral" that it cannot reproduce anymore, even to the point that hordes of the very savages that enjoy these atavistic pleasures (like me, for instance) must be drafted in to make up the shortfall.

At least their cultural and societal mores have proven viable over a decent stretch of time.

Some German politico stated the other day that soon there will inevitably be a local version of Sharia law. So what was the point of it all then.

[redgunamo]

Not really. Any form of murder is a bit of a channel changer for me

You see, this is precisely the trouble; if people actually saw what was going on, often in their name, then there'd be alot less of it going on. In their name. If you follow me.

[redgunamo]

What sort of wrestling are we talking about here P?

Modern day nonsense or old skool nonsense? Giant Haystacks or John Cena? Big Daddy or Big Show?

Both shÃ*te of course but I am a stickler for detail.

Ah, you have a young son too, don't you