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Thread: It's only 10 points :cloud9: it's on

  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Surely it isn't so outlandish to suggest that there might be such a thing the best manager in England?
    Would that not change every year in line with the winner of the title?

    Is a manager with a bottomless pit of money who delivers tangible success in the form of a trophy a better “manager” than his peer at a club with little or no finances or club infrastructure who manages to keep them competing with clubs of much bigger means?

    It’s all a bit my dad is bigger than your dad to be honest.

    Wenger is a very good manager. Pochetinno is a very good manager. One is arguably coming to the end of his days while the other is setting off on his path.

    One manages a club with enormous resources, one of the top 10 in the world if we believe reports from industry specialists. The other does not. There is despite basic logic different expectations placed on both from their supporters.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Pochettino, is generally lauded as the Greatest Thing That's Ever Happened To Football
    Sauce please?
    "Scoring a goal is better than sex" - Whoever said that was sticking it to the wrong woman

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberto Balsam Rodriguez View Post
    Sauce please?
    Several links below from Ash.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Several links below from Ash.

    ...and yet somehow that is a reflection on our manager?
    "Scoring a goal is better than sex" - Whoever said that was sticking it to the wrong woman

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberto Balsam Rodriguez View Post
    ...and yet somehow that is a reflection on our manager?
    Well, yes. When one is lauded and the other decried, whilst results are the same, there's something amiss, no?

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    Would that not change every year in line with the winner of the title?

    Is a manager with a bottomless pit of money who delivers tangible success in the form of a trophy a better “manager” than his peer at a club with little or no finances or club infrastructure who manages to keep them competing with clubs of much bigger means?

    It’s all a bit my dad is bigger than your dad to be honest.

    Wenger is a very good manager. Pochetinno is a very good manager. One is arguably coming to the end of his days while the other is setting off on his path.

    One manages a club with enormous resources, one of the top 10 in the world if we believe reports from industry specialists. The other does not. There is despite basic logic different expectations placed on both from their supporters.
    Not necessarily the winning of the title. The concept of best manager is an opinion, which, if expressed, might take into account all of the factors you mention. In terms of pounds spent per point harvested, I expect Poch is running high amongst the top-ranked clubs over the last two seasons. Agreed that the stock of a manager fluctuates with the team's fortunes, and would add that those fortunes will depend also on players and the coaching, scouting and other staff.

    Or maybe Dr Nerg is right and the Spurs players are just doing well because they are doping.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Not necessarily the winning of the title. The concept of best manager is an opinion, which, if expressed, might take into account all of the factors you mention. In terms of pounds spent per point harvested, I expect Poch is running high amongst the top-ranked clubs over the last two seasons. Agreed that the stock of a manager fluctuates with the team's fortunes, and would add that those fortunes will depend also on players and the coaching, scouting and other staff.

    Or maybe Dr Nerg is right and the Spurs players are just doing well because they are doping.
    I think Spurs are doing well as they've actually not had any major departures in the past few seasons which was a regular to lose their stars. They are having a good period.

    They have been fortunate with the rise of Alli and Kane. Unfortunately with Kane they seem to have actually found a player who seems to want to stick around and would probably stick around even if a big team comes looking. alli on the other hand I don't know.

    most importantly it seems Spurs have actually given this manager a run at things. as usually they would have sacked him by now.

    I am sure a disruption will turn up at some point.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post

    I am sure a disruption will turn up at some point.
    Rumours of large Spanish clubs sniffing around their manager for one.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    Rumours of large Spanish clubs sniffing around their manager for one.
    And PSG

    http://www.espnfc.com/tottenham-hots...in-are-my-team

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Well, yes. When one is lauded and the other decried, whilst results are the same, there's something amiss, no?
    Depends on the motivation. Selling articles or gaining clicks largely depends on the positivity or apathy of the intended reader. Hardy much point writing an article about how out of his depth potato head is when he appears to be doing a better job than all of his recent predecessors. Conversely, look at the type of people that look forward to reading a negative article about Mr Wenger.
    "Scoring a goal is better than sex" - Whoever said that was sticking it to the wrong woman

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