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    Re the potential red cards on Saturday

    Yep, Calafiori should have been sent off. I guess the ref thought it was a block where he had little chance to get out of the way, and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Actually, he used his right leg to trip the opponent. It was deliberate and should have been a second yellow. I understand Cooper complaining, although his complaints about the 'foul' on Vardy before the first goal were beyond pathetic.

    However.... given that referees apparently have 'no choice' when restarts are delayed, Ndidi kicked the ball away while on a yellow, delaying the restart.
    Vardy, already on a yellow, took the ball out of the net when they equalised and kicked it into the stands. Delaying the restart.
    Skipp, who could have got a red card for going studs up, over the ball and through the back of Martinelli's ankle, scythed down Saka on the edge of the box while on a yellow.

    So Leicester could (letter of the law should) have had three players sent off.

    Still waiting to see an opponent booked for kicking the ball away.

    One final thought- what has happened to the celebration police? I haven't heard much from them this season....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Yep, Calafiori should have been sent off. I guess the ref thought it was a block where he had little chance to get out of the way, and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Actually, he used his right leg to trip the opponent. It was deliberate and should have been a second yellow. I understand Cooper complaining, although his complaints about the 'foul' on Vardy before the first goal were beyond pathetic.

    However.... given that referees apparently have 'no choice' when restarts are delayed, Ndidi kicked the ball away while on a yellow, delaying the restart.
    Vardy, already on a yellow, took the ball out of the net when they equalised and kicked it into the stands. Delaying the restart.
    Skipp, who could have got a red card for going studs up, over the ball and through the back of Martinelli's ankle, scythed down Saka on the edge of the box while on a yellow.

    So Leicester could (letter of the law should) have had three players sent off.

    Still waiting to see an opponent booked for kicking the ball away.

    One final thought- what has happened to the celebration police? I haven't heard much from them this season....
    Disagree on Calafiori, he's pulling his leg back, which is what saves him.....probably also the lad jumping up and waving an imaginary yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSRB View Post
    Disagree on Calafiori, he's pulling his leg back, which is what saves him.....probably also the lad jumping up and waving an imaginary yellow.
    Fair enough. I could say I'll look at it again but we both know I'm not going to.

    I don't mind opposition managers moaning but when pundits and ex refs appear out of the woodwork and describe it as 'beyond belief' while ignoring everything else in the game, I get a tiny bit irritated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Fair enough. I could say I'll look at it again but we both know I'm not going to.

    I don't mind opposition managers moaning but when pundits and ex refs appear out of the woodwork and describe it as 'beyond belief' while ignoring everything else in the game, I get a tiny bit irritated.
    Tbf, on ref watch today, they all said the ref could have sent him off but it was a better decision not too. Don't want to be reducing teams to 10 men for that sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Fair enough. I could say I'll look at it again but we both know I'm not going to.

    I don't mind opposition managers moaning but when pundits and ex refs appear out of the woodwork and describe it as 'beyond belief' while ignoring everything else in the game, I get a tiny bit irritated.
    Rightly so, p. The Skipp one particularly annoyed me. And Vardy complaining for the first goal. Pundit on my commentary (don't know who is was), said the blatant push on Saka early in the game "wasn't enough" to warrant a free kick but the slight contact from Saliva meant Leicester had "a case". Startling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Rightly so, p. The Skipp one particularly annoyed me. And Vardy complaining for the first goal. Pundit on my commentary (don't know who is was), said the blatant push on Saka early in the game "wasn't enough" to warrant a free kick but the slight contact from Saliva meant Leicester had "a case". Startling
    Clearly I had the same commentary. Breathtaking hypocrisy. I had to turn the sound down as I could hardly hear myself swearing.

    Ref bottled the Skipp one. Played a pointless 'advantage' and hoped everyone would forget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSRB View Post
    Tbf, on ref watch today, they all said the ref could have sent him off but it was a better decision not too. Don't want to be reducing teams to 10 men for that sort of thing.
    Honestly- I don't think even refs and former refs really understand what is and isn't a red card anymore. I listen to their explanations about different situations and always come to the conclusion that what they are saying doesn't make any sense.

    I think we just have to accept that the rules are complicated, the game moves incredibly quickly and refs are human, as well as being fairly incompetent. I am getting to the stage where the endless attempts to justify and defend a shocking refereeing decision are actually more annoying that the decision itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Honestly- I don't think even refs and former refs really understand what is and isn't a red card anymore. I listen to their explanations about different situations and always come to the conclusion that what they are saying doesn't make any sense.

    I think we just have to accept that the rules are complicated, the game moves incredibly quickly and refs are human, as well as being fairly incompetent. I am getting to the stage where the endless attempts to justify and defend a shocking refereeing decision are actually more annoying that the decision itself.
    The red yesterday to Fernandes was a complete joke. Surely, VAR should have said to the ref, you might want to have a look at that. Maddison rolling around didn't help him either.
    That said, I can think of a few occasions that Fernandes should have got a red but didn't, so **** him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Clearly I had the same commentary. Breathtaking hypocrisy. I had to turn the sound down as I could hardly hear myself swearing.

    Ref bottled the Skipp one. Played a pointless 'advantage' and hoped everyone would forget.
    Indeed, where was the ****ing advantage???? Free kick in A1 position or ball out on left wing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSRB View Post
    The red yesterday to Fernandes was a complete joke. Surely, VAR should have said to the ref, you might want to have a look at that. Maddison rolling around didn't help him either.
    That said, I can think of a few occasions that Fernandes should have got a red but didn't, so **** him.
    I think that one is a good example of how useless VAR has become. If the intention is that you only correct 'clear errors' then VAR is next to useless. The overwhelming majority of football decisions are not factual and are not going to count as clearly correct or incorrect. So, as in this case, you have a red card decision that nobody in their right mind would agree with, and VAR looks at it and upholds as it is not a 'clear error'. It just makes officiating look even more incompetent.

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