btw, I see.
But then, it seems the glw is also a better slip fielder than anyone in England. Why do we have one dressed like him out of Pirates of the Carib?
btw, I see.
But then, it seems the glw is also a better slip fielder than anyone in England. Why do we have one dressed like him out of Pirates of the Carib?
Poor old Jimmy - quite possibly doesn't play another Test after this and these ****wits are going to **** up his 600 wicketsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
Please don't. That's my worry. Everyone's going "Oh, he'll get those two this afternoon" eg MV on BBC. The Times or Graun {I forget which} ran their prepared most important wickets of Jimmy's 600 this morning like he'd already done it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Buttler's dropped one today. 3 down yesterday including best mate Broad who both heroically affected the run out {showing his skill didn't cost the team} but also meant there was one less wicket JA could take that innings.
The weather's bad, and I could see Jimmy getting injured and ending with 598 or 9 like Bradman's 99.94.
Please, Ganpati, no. I want him bowling in Aus. {Notice the way that everyone said he was past it last test when he beat the bat 100 times. The graphics showed he was swinging it most last test. 1.1 units of whatever. This test he's had the lowest swing. 0.7 units. And taken the edge loads. He was just bowling too well last test.}
I'll let Sibley off cos he's young, new to the cordon and just scored 250. But if that cünt Burns spent more time in slip practice instead of trying to look like a pirate, Jimmy would be done and dusted.
Also, if Pope was as bad as Denley, we could play Root, Stokes, Jos and Foakes at 4-7. But Root's a 4, not 3. Stokes has to bat at 5 or 6. Pope needs to be persevered with. But Buttler isn't a tesst class 'keeper, even if the last 2 innings show that he may have leaned how to bat properly a la Stokes.
But with proper catching, we could have been into them last night and had them 2 or 3 down. With Jimmy have taken 600.
Couple of things:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
1/ Sibley took his. You've got him mixed up with Crawley.
2/ You really don't want a 40 year-old Anderson bowling with a Kookaburra ball in an Ashes series in Australia.
1. True. All look the same to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
2. None bowlers are any good down there. How come Bess is the best spinner in the country? We're gonna get hammered.
This Ollie Robinson at Sussex looks quite useful - hits the bat hard, as Mike Selvey says and makes the batsman play. Shame he didn't get a run out this summerQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Not true. Fitness permitting, I think Wood and Archer have the potential to do well down there. Broad does OK in Australia and Stokes actually bowls very well with the old Kookaburra. The mistake would be to take someone like Woakes, who just has no business playing abroad. As to spinners, we've had about two decent spinners in 30 years, so a paucity in that department is no new thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
And actually, it isn't our bowling that loses us Ashes series, it's our batting. I'd say there's hopeful signs there if the likes of Pope and Crawley keep developing, Root remembers how to get hundreds and Stokes carries on looking like one of the best bats in the world. If we could find an opener without a spasticated batting style (Christ knows what they're teaching them at Whitgift these days), I'd say we've an even chance.
Rash needs to play down under. Might as well just play Root as your spinner if picking Bess - Maybe you play Bess and Rashid at Sydney.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
If Anderson is fit he goes to Aus. He's been getting better and better in recent years and I recall him bowling in India when we won there off about 5 paces (i.e. he can adapt). He's also been hovering around the 84/85mph mark in this series and he'll always be on the money. May not play in all 5 tests but certainly an asset to have.
Let's see how India goes first - potentially ten Tests against them before the next Ashes and that will have a big bearing on the team. Rashid has to prove his shoulder is up for Test cricket, which I very much doubt it is, sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
Fit or not, he'll be 40. I'd offer good odds Anderson doesn't play in Australia. The nature of the selections this summer tells you that Silverwood and Root are looking at establishing a post-Anderson bowling attack prior to going into that Ashes series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
I doubt Rashid is a serious contender anymore. Moeen was clearly being lined up as England's spin option, but sadly he forgot how to bat and bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Rich's seam attack for Australia (any 4 from):Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Broad
Olly Stone
Saqib Mahmood
Archer
Wood
George Garton
Plus:
Stokes
At the moment, I'd say Archer, Wood and Broad are first pick and the others are scrabbling for the other slot. That may change in a year, though, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
They're going to take Woakes, though. They just will. It's what England selectors do. They'll use phrases like 'He can do a job for us' and 'Look at the summer he's just had' and he'll end up bowling gun-barrel straight all series and taking about seven wickets at 40-odd. :-(
Depends how Root wants to use Archer and Wood, though. If they want to limit their workload to say a maximum of 3 x 5 over spells per innings then it leaves a lot of slack for the others to pick up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Agreed. I'm not convinced by the 5-over thing with Archer, though. He takes three or four to hit his rhythm and coming off after five clearly seems to frustrate him. There's a balance to be found between overbowling him as Root did in NZ and underbowling him as he did in this test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
I'd say Broad and Stokes as stock bowlers plus whatever excuse for a 'spinner' we take should be sufficient to accommodate the quicks, though.
Archer needs to bowl with pace. He did in the first innings of this game, at times. But on many other occasions he was the 'slowest' of England's seamers. He seems to bring everything in to the right hander (seam rather than swing) so either needs to ensure his pace is strong or find a way to nibble it away off the seam as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
I'm a big fan of Broad's 'celebrappeal' where he wraps the batsman on the pads and runs of celebrating to the slips rather than bother to check with the umpire for his decision.
I agree that someone needs to tell him that we don't have any shortage of blokes who can bowl at 84-85mph (indeed, you couldn't throw a dart in most county dressing rooms without hitting one) and that isn't why he's in the side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
I like Broad's appeal, too. Although it does look bad when it gets turned down.
Garton is an interesting one - seems to have been around for a while but only 23. Best option of a left-hander - but you know Curran will be pickedQuote:
Originally Posted by Rich
I'd rather use Stokes as a 4-5 over "shock" bowler and Archer bowl longer spells. We aren't going to find a magic spinner - if we can just find one that can tie an end down (I hate to say it but an Ashley Giles-figure) it would make a differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Due to his superhuman fitness, Stokes seems quire happy to bowl long spells - even when bowling short stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Agree about a Giles-type figure. That's the advantage a left-armer has, of course. If all else fails they can just bowl at the rough outside leg and prevent scoring.
You've reminded me about Curran, which has distressed me. They're going to take him and Woakes to Australia, aren't they? :cry:
Will be:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Broad
Jake Ball
Archer/Wood
S Curran
Leach
Stokes
**** me rich - Jake Ball - ae you trying to send b over the edgeQuote:
Originally Posted by Rich
Nah. If Archer and Wood are both fit, they'll both tour. Whether they'll both play is another matter. Jake Ball is a non-entity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
If Wood and Archer take the new ball in Brisbane, I might actually believe we could winQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
It won't happen
How many of our batsmen have performed well in Oz and are still in reasonable form?Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I'm not sure where the optimism comes from. Warner and Smith are fully over cheatgate and we're going to need to take more than 1-125 from spin per game.
We are going to get absolutely battered.
:hehe: It was moment of fleeting optimism, afc e. I'm sure you are rightQuote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
I feel bad now :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Well Root averages 48 over there, Stokes averages nearly 40 and has made a ton there and is now 10 times the batsman he was then. The others haven't really played there, but we now have two very, very promising young middle order batsmen and an opening pair who, while they have their faults, are capable of making 50 partnerships with a consistency we haven't seen since Cook and Strauss.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
Be as miserable as you like, but there are grounds for optimism. :-p
I'm sorry but I don't know that I can stand to watch Burns twist and contort himself as their opening bowlers charge in. We must find an alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
No fan of his (Surrey scum, obviously) but he did very well against them last time. We should stick with himQuote:
Originally Posted by Rich
Bless you. You don't usually come across all Spursy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Look on the bright side, you won't have to watch him for long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich