Ladies and gentlemen, I give you 'the left'

[Sir C]

But b enjoys this. It would be far less entertaining if he posted sensible opinion and thought from vaguely left wing members of the Labour Party.

Far better to find modern day loons on twitter. And it is more entertaining to be fair.

The last 'vaguely left wing' ideas we had were the rantings of the fools Cameron and Osborn, and look where they got us.

[Peter]

The last 'vaguely left wing' ideas we had were the rantings of the fools Cameron and Osborn, and look where they got us.

They are not members of the Labour Party, Sir C.

[Burney]

I'm not about to defend her but she does have a point in ther abstract doesn't she?

I mean, the suffragettes were quite different to Hitler. A nuisance but preferable to him, I would argue.

Ditto the Chartists. I'm just saying.

Not really, since if an ideology's execution has proven to be murderous over and over again, continuing to bang the drum for it represents a degree of wilful blindness that amounts to complicity. It's akin to saying that pushing people off a cliff in a sincere expectation that they'll learn to fly (despite a century of evidence telling you they just die) is better than pushing them off because you want them dead.
She's attempting to excuse her beliefs on the grounds of good intentions, which is disingenuous at best.

[Sir C]

They are not members of the Labour Party, Sir C.

They ought to have been; they were clearly committed socialists.

No, I'm afraid Osborne's 'handling' of the economy has debunked the socialist myth forever. You just have to accept it now; it doesn't work.

[Burney]

But b enjoys this. It would be far less entertaining if he posted sensible opinion and thought from vaguely left wing members of the Labour Party.

Far better to find modern day loons on twitter. And it is more entertaining to be fair.

Mate, have you seen the Labour party lately? I'm seeing a distinct shortage of these sensible, vaguely left-wing members of whom you speak.

[Burney]

They ought to have been; they were clearly committed socialists.

No, I'm afraid Osborne's 'handling' of the economy has debunked the socialist myth forever. You just have to accept it now; it doesn't work.

Apart from anything else, Osborne has shown he was never a Tory with his recent antics.

[Sir C]

Apart from anything else, Osborne has shown he was never a Tory with his recent antics.

He seems determined to get his own back on May even if it lands us all with Comrade Corbyn, the fúcking maniac.

[Burney]

He seems determined to get his own back on May even if it lands us all with Comrade Corbyn, the fúcking maniac.

We can only hope the people of London stop buying the Standar...oh.

[Peter]

Mate, have you seen the Labour party lately? I'm seeing a distinct shortage of these sensible, vaguely left-wing members of whom you speak.

Mate??

Not the Burney I am used to at all....

[Peter]

Not really, since if an ideology's execution has proven to be murderous over and over again, continuing to bang the drum for it represents a degree of wilful blindness that amounts to complicity. It's akin to saying that pushing people off a cliff in a sincere expectation that they'll learn to fly (despite a century of evidence telling you they just die) is better than pushing them off because you want them dead.
She's attempting to excuse her beliefs on the grounds of good intentions, which is disingenuous at best.

What beliefs are these? I dont even know who she is or what she is banging on about...