Oh certainly not. Of course, some would say that viewing these sorts of things through class makes one something of a Marxist, in form or another.Originally Posted by Burney
Not me.
Oh certainly not. Of course, some would say that viewing these sorts of things through class makes one something of a Marxist, in form or another.
Not me.
It is a view that a Marxist should agree with though. Understanding the world in terms of the relationship between social classes is what Historical Materialism is about, after all.
And yes, this is a case of a bien pensent middle class dictating to a lower class. Funnily enough, this is something that the 'right' (be they real conservatives or mere Tory-voters) is often better at spotting these days than the fake left, who have absolutely no clue about class any more, or any self-awareness about their new role as loyal and fervant supporters of the establishment, ruling class.
In short, when I were a nipper the 'right' were in charge and the 'left' were the rebels. Now it looks more the other way round imo.
Money has ruined everything
"Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.
"But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."
As the left comprehensively lost the battle for political power, they comprehensively won the battle for cultural supremacy via education, academia, media, etc. Their ideas became doctrine to such an extent that, when the country voted for a relatively fiscally conservative Labour party, they got hard left-wing dogma as social policy. The Conservative Party in 2010 - completely misjudging the public mood and their own demographics - decided they needed to buy in to this horseshít, so since then we've had left-wing Tory governments ramming this crap down our throats. This has left vast numbers of traditional conservatives excluded, disenfranchised and bemused at finding themselves labelled as 'hard right'. They have therefore thought to themselves 'fück that' and become politically engaged.
Have they? Have they become politically engaged? I'm not persuaded. I see no evidence of any fightback.
You don't see the Leave vote as evidence of a fightback? I'd say it was the single biggest spoke in the wheel that the 'there is no alternative'/'progressive' movement has seen in this country. That's why they're so cross.
Hmm, a proportion of leave voters were far from politically engaged, to be fair. You know how it's dreadful how the Left sneers at white van man for being ignorant? Well, it's both dreadful and true.
I fear that the vast majority of conservatives who are capable of cogent thought have actually surrendered, beaten by 70 years of socialism.
Hmm, a proportion of leave voters were far from politically engaged, to be fair. You know how it's dreadful how the Left sneers at white van man for being ignorant? Well, it's both dreadful and true.
I fear that the vast majority of conservatives who are capable of cogent thought have actually surrendered, beaten by 70 years of socialism.
There was a large proportion of both sides that weren't particularly politically engaged. So what? It doesn't alter the fact that a lot of Leave voters were politically engaged. Nobody was suggesting that this trend was universal.
And I don't think conservatives have surrendered. They've just gone underground to avoid being called racist and screamed at by lefties.
That's only true if by 'traditional conservatives' you mean 'old people' because as has been pointed out to you many times, we only voted leave because of the 55+ vote so any narrative which suggests that it was part of a movement of some kind which spans all age groups is simply incorrect.
Just because a view predominates in one age group, it doesn't follow that it doesn't span all age groups, you silly fellow.
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