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Thread: At what point does an honest shot like that from Torreira get deemed an own goal

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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Stupid rule. By that logic, if a shot is on target and is deflected wise, a goal should be awarded.
    It is a stupid rule. If the attacking player hadn't taken the shot, there wouldn't be anything to deflect, so it should be given to the attacker regardless.

    Own goals should only be awarded when the defending team scores against itself with little or no input from the opposition (the classic Lee Dixon-type own goal, if you like).

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    It is a stupid rule. If the attacking player hadn't taken the shot, there wouldn't be anything to deflect, so it should be given to the attacker regardless.

    Own goals should only be awarded when the defending team scores against itself with little or no input from the opposition (the classic Lee Dixon-type own goal, if you like).
    So if a shot is going wide and an attacker deflects it then the original shooter should be given the goal?
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    So if a shot is going wide and an attacker deflects it then the original shooter should be given the goal?
    Unless the deflection is deliberate, yes. After all, intent is taken into account in other areas of the laws, why not in the question of goalscoring*?

    *Yes, yes, I know who scores isn't a question as far as the laws are concerned, since it doesn't actually matter.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Unless the deflection is deliberate, yes. After all, intent is taken into account in other areas of the laws, why not in the question of goalscoring*?

    *Yes, yes, I know who scores isn't a question as far as the laws are concerned, since it doesn't actually matter.
    I think you should stick to sport(s) you know something about....
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    I think you should stick to sport(s) you know something about....
    You could at least try and present a half-decent counter-argument, p.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    You could at least try and present a half-decent counter-argument, p.
    Something deflected for a throw, in your rules wouldn't always be awarded to the team who didn't touch it last

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    Northern Monkey ... who can't upload a bleeding Avatar

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Something deflected for a throw, in your rules wouldn't always be awarded to the team who didn't touch it last

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    Yes, but there is no requirement to attribute responsibility for throw-ins to an individual, so you're not really comparing apples and apples, are you?

    Rightly or wrongly, the authorities feel the need to attribute goals to individuals. In itself this is somewhat ludicrous in a team sport, but given that it is the case, there should be some logic to the awarding of goals. Clearly the last attacking player to make a deliberate attempt on goal is the prime mover in the scoring of that goal (regardless of any subsequent accidental touches) and should therefore get the credit.

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