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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Problem is that any dialogue now is retrospectively spun into something it never was to suit whatever agenda people want. Look at the Cathy Newman/Peterson thing. A rational conversation in which he examines ideas rationally and rightly refused to be tarred with ideas or opinions he's never held or espoused (leading to her receiving some legitimate ridicule) becomes 'Evil alt-right trolls attack female presenter'. Everything is now weaponised in order to suit an agenda and further polarise opinion. Debate and discussion therefore become redundant and nobody changes anybody's mind.

    There's nothing else for it. We're just going to have to start shooting these people.
    Ever seen that Mehdi Hassan chap debate Islam and its role in terrorism, or something similar?

    It's mental. The audiences (British and non-British) seem to love him but when you examine his arguments he has only two. One, since 99.99% of Muslims don't blow themselves up any argument that ties terrorism to Islam is invalid and an example of racial bias and two, whataboutery.

    My favourite was his response to someone who pointed out how barbaric it was that the Koran encourages beheading people under certain conditions. Mehdi replied and I paraphrase 'you are aware that our allies Saudi Arabia allow beheading'.

    The British audience applauded him for that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Ever seen that Mehdi Hassan chap debate Islam and its role in terrorism, or something similar?

    It's mental. The audiences (British and non-British) seem to love him but when you examine his arguments he has only two. One, since 99.99% of Muslims don't blow themselves up any argument that ties terrorism to Islam is invalid and an example of racial bias and two, whataboutery.

    My favourite was his response to someone who pointed out how barbaric it was that the Koran encourages beheading people under certain conditions. Mehdi replied and I paraphrase 'you are aware that our allies Saudi Arabia allow beheading'.

    The British audience applauded him for that one.
    He is a revolting Islamist apologist and I'd have him shot, of course.

    Mind you, in the unlikely event that Saudi ever becomes a liberal democracy, lefties would be completely fvcked for whataboutery.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    He is a revolting Islamist apologist and I'd have him shot, of course.

    Mind you, in the unlikely event that Saudi ever becomes a liberal democracy, lefties would be completely fvcked for whataboutery.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZAfYpdn468

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    That video came up in one of the debates I watched. He dismissed it as 'I no longer believe things I once did when I was younger'.

    Fair enough, but it was fun to watch him crawl. The worrying thing is that he isn't stupid and he is eloquent yet his arguments are absurd. Which sort of makes you wonder what impact his religion a) has on him and b) has on people considerably less intelligent than him.

    Also, he makes me want to punch him, really hard.

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