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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    No, but I take into account your views and status and assume that (as with most people) they are largely reflected in your friendship group. Not an unreasonable assumption, I think. I also take into account the fact that the demonstrably wilful refusal of the average left-leaning Euro-liberal such as yourself to acknowledge the disaster that unchecked immigration of young, male, muslim migrants has been is as much an intrinsic part of this story as the migrants themselves. So I factor in your bias and the likely bias of your friends and do put these things in context - just not a context you particularly like.
    "here are my prejudices, I will see everything through my prejudices". SAD, b

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    "here are my prejudices, I will see everything through my prejudices". SAD, b
    No more or less than you see everything through yours.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    No more or less than you see everything through yours.
    Show me where I have been arrogant enough to suggest that you only know - and listen to - people of only one political persuasion and you might have a point. Particularly on this issue when you bought up the views of one bloke who has posted some stuff on the internet to back up your point and then disparaged the views of people I actual have known for years and, sorry, don't fit your cliched characterisation of them

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Show me where I have been arrogant enough to suggest that you only know - and listen to - people of only one political persuasion and you might have a point. Particularly on this issue when you bought up the views of one bloke who has posted some stuff on the internet to back up your point and then disparaged the views of people I actual have known for years and, sorry, don't fit your cliched characterisation of them
    Can you really not see how monstrously arrogant of your dismissal of bgm's inconvenient views is?

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Can you really not see how monstrously arrogant of your dismissal of bgm's inconvenient views is?
    Let us compare:
    "I don't discount what bgm says, I put it into context and place it with other information". Not a dismissal of his views, I would say

    Can you not see how monstrously arrogant your presumption of the people I know, their social status, what they do, how long they have lived there and your complete dismissal of their views? You say BGM's views carry weight as he lives in the country but have previously dismissed my views on the migrant situation in Germany as irrelevant as I "probably don't live in an area that has those sort of problems", a comment made with no knowledge of where I live here or more importantly the area I work - or the people I know here or the experiences I, or they have had.

    In short, don't call people arrogant when there are countless examples of your own spectacular arrogance that can easily be thrown back at you. Just in this thread alone

    I still love you as a poster, though, b

    I am going to the pub to drink beer and eat pork - because I still can

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Let us compare:
    "I don't discount what bgm says, I put it into context and place it with other information". Not a dismissal of his views, I would say

    Can you not see how monstrously arrogant your presumption of the people I know, their social status, what they do, how long they have lived there and your complete dismissal of their views? You say BGM's views carry weight as he lives in the country but have previously dismissed my views on the migrant situation in Germany as irrelevant as I "probably don't live in an area that has those sort of problems", a comment made with no knowledge of where I live here or more importantly the area I work - or the people I know here or the experiences I, or they have had.

    In short, don't call people arrogant when there are countless examples of your own spectacular arrogance that can easily be thrown back at you. Just in this thread alone

    I still love you as a poster, though, b

    I am going to the pub to drink beer and eat pork - because I still can
    You were the one who made the first accusaiton of arrogance, not me. I made assumptions about your friends' backgrounds and made it clear that I was making assumptions based on certain likelihoods. If I'm wholly wrong and your friends hold none of the types of view or socio-economic statuses I suggest, but are instead downtown Malmo-dwelling members of the white working class, I apologise.

    And you put bgm's comments in a 'context' of your own choosing that just so happened to coincide with your prejudices. Let's neither of us pretend that we are disinterested or dispassionate. We're plainly not.

    Enjoy your evening.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    No more or less than you see everything through yours.
    See what I mean; another pissing contest between sundry shades of lefty. Though it's probably a fair point to suggest LA's friends aren't paid up racists
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    See what I mean; another pissing contest between sundry shades of lefty. Though it's probably a fair point to suggest LA's friends aren't paid up racists
    I liked the fact that they argued over who had insulted who, and who had slighted bgm the most but neither discussed burney's suggestion that all immigrants are savages

    Modern political discourse ....

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I liked the fact that they argued over who had insulted who, and who had slighted bgm the most but neither discussed burney's suggestion that all immigrants are savages

    Modern political discourse ....
    It happens every, single time.

    Maybe it is as well that way; obviously all immigrants are savages but really they just want to be left alone
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    It happens every, single time.

    Maybe it is as well that way; obviously all immigrants are savages but really they just want to be left alone
    Many immigrants are savages, of course; consider the number of Irish who have poured into this country, bringing their medieval attitudes and their p[enchant for breeding like rodents. However, many of the children of these backward peasants have adapted to civilised culture and a few of them now even lead useful, decent lives. Within 5 or 6 generations they may even begin to breed with native inhabitants of this Great Island Nation and their genetic problems will be watered down by the addition of pure English blood.

    Immigrants from other cultures, sadly, have not integrated in this way, which makes it difficult to drive down Commercial St on a Friday afternoon.

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