Pleasing though it is to see James Corden squirm, I can't help but feel the whole

[Burney]

Has no one noticed that all of a sudden, if one says something deemed 'wrong', one is expected to engage in Cultural Revoltionesque self-criticism? It's fúcking scary.

Of course. And if one is 'right', one can say virtually anything without any censure whatsoever.

The fact is, of course, is that this sort of 'outrage' is actually a tremendously convenient way for people to be seen to be saying the right things for a brief period and not actually have to do anything to address it. Co-ordinated 'outrage' in fact obfuscates, procrastinates and ultimately acts as a useful stand-in for action.

[Peter]

Of course. And if one is 'right', one can say virtually anything without any censure whatsoever.

The fact is, of course, is that this sort of 'outrage' is actually a tremendously convenient way for people to be seen to be saying the right things for a brief period and not actually have to do anything to address it. Co-ordinated 'outrage' in fact obfuscates, procrastinates and ultimately acts as a useful stand-in for action.

Also, without wanting to be seen as supporting rape 'culture' it would be nice if a few more of the headlines suggesting allegations of rape had actual allegations of rape. I would never want to downplay the appalling actions of this man (heaven forbid) but attempted sexual assault (also known as 'making a pass' at someone) never used to be rape. Is it now rape?

It seems that the term 'rape culture' Is being used to bring all forms of behaviour deemed unacceptable or 'unwelcome' under the rape umbrella. It is rather confusing......

[Burney]

Also, without wanting to be seen as supporting rape 'culture' it would be nice if a few more of the headlines suggesting allegations of rape had actual allegations of rape. I would never want to downplay the appalling actions of this man (heaven forbid) but attempted sexual assault (also known as 'making a pass' at someone) never used to be rape. Is it now rape?

It seems that the term 'rape culture' Is being used to bring all forms of behaviour deemed unacceptable or 'unwelcome' under the rape umbrella. It is rather confusing......

Everything's rape in Hollywood now, p. Unless you're Roman Polanski, of course. When he drugs, rapes and sodomises a 13 year-old girl, Hollywood types line up to say it's not 'rape-rape'.

The fact is that absolutely everyone on all sides seems so utterly dreadful as to make one despair.

[Monty92]

Everything's rape in Hollywood now, p. Unless you're Roman Polanski, of course. When he drugs, rapes and sodomises a 13 year-old girl, Hollywood types line up to say it's not 'rape-rape'.

The fact is that absolutely everyone on all sides seems so utterly dreadful as to make one despair.

Let's also bear in mind that all of this is taking place in a climate in which feminist commentators are given platforms to routinely argue that all intercourse is rape.

[Burney]

Let's also bear in mind that all of this is taking place in a climate in which feminist commentators are given platforms to routinely argue that all intercourse is rape.

Yes. It's at the stage now that, if one mentions that Harvey Weinstein hasn't actually been convicted of anything or that Rose McGowan actually tweeted Ben Affleck's personal phone number and that's why Twitter banned her, you're a rape-enabler.

And if you suggest that certain actresses may be indulging in a degree of revisionism under the smokescreen created by this furore, you're basically worse than Weinstein.

[Sir C]

Let's also bear in mind that all of this is taking place in a climate in which feminist commentators are given platforms to routinely argue that all intercourse is rape.

Only if it's done properly.

[Burney]

Only if it's done properly.

We are white, European males, Sir C. We are literally the worst creatures on the planet and apparently everything would be better if it weren't for us. Given our inherent evil, all forms of sexual behaviour in which we indulge are by default rape.

[Pokster]

We are white, European males, Sir C. We are literally the worst creatures on the planet and apparently everything would be better if it weren't for us. Given our inherent evil, all forms of sexual behaviour in which we indulge are by default rape.

Unless it is with your mum of course, she goes over like a dog on wet lino