As mistakes go, I think this one needs a bit more than a 'Whoops! Soz! Lol!'

[Burney]

THe immediate effect of parliament voting down the deal would be May losing the leadership. It wouldnt precipitate an election as a vote of no confidence wouldnt carry the House.

If the aftermath was the need for an election the Tories would fight it with a new leader.

I honestly cant see Labour winning an election. Not in a million years, even in the strangest political climate in living memory.

Nor me. For all Sir C moaning about it, their polling performance against a Tory government in complete turmoil is utterly, utterly pathetic. People forget that Ed fùcking Miliband led the tories by 13 points in 2013 and STILL got his arse handed to him two years later. Corbyn can't even achieve a regular lead. That is genuinely awful.

[WES]

Nor me. For all Sir C moaning about it, their polling performance against a Tory government in complete turmoil is utterly, utterly pathetic. People forget that Ed fùcking Miliband led the tories by 13 points in 2013 and STILL got his arse handed to him two years later. Corbyn can't even achieve a regular lead. That is genuinely awful.

I'll tell you what scares me with regard to the possibility of a Labour government - the youth of this country.

Someone wrote in the Times this morning that we're far enough away from nationalization of industry that a large number of voters can't remember how appalling it was. And that the youth are actually looking for dramtic change; with no point of reference to understand how dangerous that might be because since they've been alive there has been very little difference between what has been considered left or right wing.

Uncle Jeremy offering them some free money might have the work shy f*ckwits out in droves.

[Burney]

I'll tell you what scares me with regard to the possibility of a Labour government - the youth of this country.

Someone wrote in the Times this morning that we're far enough away from nationalization of industry that a large number of voters can't remember how appalling it was. And that the youth are actually looking for dramtic change; with no point of reference to understand how dangerous that might be because since they've been alive there has been very little difference between what has been considered left or right wing.

Uncle Jeremy offering them some free money might have the work shy f*ckwits out in droves.

Don't worry about the youth. They don't vote and the votes of those who do are spread geographically in such a way that makes little difference. Their supposed 'great surge' in 2017 was shown to be massively exaggerated. The people who achieved that vote for Corbyn in 2017 were pìssed-off, middle-aged remainers making a protest vote.

[Peter]

Don't worry about the youth. They don't vote and the votes of those who do are spread geographically in such a way that makes little difference. Their supposed 'great surge' in 2017 was shown to be massively exaggerated. The people who achieved that vote for Corbyn in 2017 were pìssed-off, middle-aged remainers making a protest vote.

Apart from in Canterbury, perhaps. And all those constituencies where you think muslims are abusing the postal votes

[Burney]

Apart from in Canterbury, perhaps. And all those constituencies where you think muslims are abusing the postal votes

They are abusing the postal votes, p. If there weren’t widespread ballot-rigging in Labour’s favour, why would Labour be getting its knickers in a twist about a basic and perfectly reasonable requirement like having to show ID in order to vote?

[Peter]

They are abusing the postal votes, p. If there weren’t widespread ballot-rigging in Labour’s favour, why would Labour be getting its knickers in a twist about a basic and perfectly reasonable requirement like having to show ID in order to vote?

Do you have to show ID when you vote?

Its a tactic that has always been used to disenfranchise the poor and minorities.

I am ashamed of you, b. You are a modern day Jim Crowe.

[Burney]

Do you have to show ID when you vote?

Its a tactic that has always been used to disenfranchise the poor and minorities.

I am ashamed of you, b. You are a modern day Jim Crowe.

I have no problem showing ID to vote. We require people to show ID in order to open a bank account, buy cigarettes, knives, medicines and alcohol, get married, pick up a parcel from the post office, etc, etc, etc. Why would we not require it so that someone can prove they are who they say they are when doing something so fundamental to our system as voting?

We're not living in 1920s Alabama, p. These are not illiterate sharecroppers we're talking about. ID is something everyone has in one form or another.

[WES]

Don't worry about the youth. They don't vote and the votes of those who do are spread geographically in such a way that makes little difference. Their supposed 'great surge' in 2017 was shown to be massively exaggerated. The people who achieved that vote for Corbyn in 2017 were pìssed-off, middle-aged remainers making a protest vote.

So I should ignore your recent track record on election predictions?

[Peter]

Nor me. For all Sir C moaning about it, their polling performance against a Tory government in complete turmoil is utterly, utterly pathetic. People forget that Ed fùcking Miliband led the tories by 13 points in 2013 and STILL got his arse handed to him two years later. Corbyn can't even achieve a regular lead. That is genuinely awful.

I wouldnt trust polls at the moment. I just cannot see Corbyn even holding the gains of the last election. I think you could have a genuine debate as to which party is in greater turmoil at present. Labour are an embarrassment.