So Jeremy Hunt has decided a good way to convince the Tory membership

[Burney]

It's hardly his fault if he believes remain is the better position than a no deal brexit. I'd rather he tells it like it is than say nothing and then show his true colours after the election.

Tory Mp's chose a remainer and a hard line Brexiteer as their final 2, i would suggest that is a better option as it gives members a clear distinction if they are going to choose their leader on Brexit. if they chose their leader on other policies then we are in for a **** storm of the highest order as Boris does he wants for himself and not for the general good of the UK imho

It's absolutely his fault if he believes that. It's also absolutely his fault if he believes that and then decides to try and lead a party the majority of whose members absolutely do not believe that. It would be akin to me attempting to win the leadership of the Labour Party with a policy platform of lower taxes, lower public spending, law and order and Hard Brexit - in other words, it's fúcking hopeless, pointless and stupid.

Frankly, I wish I had as much faith as you Remainers appear to have in Boris doing the right thing.

[Monty92]

It's absolutely his fault if he believes that. It's also absolutely his fault if he believes that and then decides to try and lead a party the majority of whose members absolutely do not believe that. It would be akin to me attempting to win the leadership of the Labour Party with a policy platform of lower taxes, lower public spending, law and order and Hard Brexit - in other words, it's fúcking hopeless, pointless and stupid.

Let's also remember that it's very likely that MPs coordinated their votes in the last round of voting to deliberately pit Hunt (rather than Gove) against Boris in the final, knowing that it would assure Boris a walkover victory. So Hunt's presence in the final two is in no way a validation of his remainer inclinations.

[Burney]

Let's also remember that it's very likely that MPs coordinated their votes in the last round of voting to deliberately pit Hunt (rather than Gove) against Boris in the final, knowing that it would assure Boris a walkover victory. So Hunt's presence in the final two is in no way a validation of his remainer inclinations.

No, but I would argue that the presence of Stewart, Hancock and Hunt in the race is symptomatic of the vast gulf that exists between sections of the Parliamentary Tory party and the overwhelming majority of its members and voters. That's going to need sorting out sharpish.

[Pokster]

It's absolutely his fault if he believes that. It's also absolutely his fault if he believes that and then decides to try and lead a party the majority of whose members absolutely do not believe that. It would be akin to me attempting to win the leadership of the Labour Party with a policy platform of lower taxes, lower public spending, law and order and Hard Brexit - in other words, it's fúcking hopeless, pointless and stupid.

Frankly, I wish I had as much faith as you Remainers appear to have in Boris doing the right thing.

So he shouldn't have views that don't agree with the voting members? If they disagree with him the Boris will win easily......

I'd rather he stuck to his beliefs and lost than lie through his teeth, win and then change his mind.

As I said, if it is on brexit Boris will win, if it is on other policies then it is anyones guess as Boris is a law to himslef and is likely to change his mind to suit his own agenda

[Burney]

So he shouldn't have views that don't agree with the voting members? If they disagree with him the Boris will win easily......

I'd rather he stuck to his beliefs and lost than lie through his teeth, win and then change his mind.

As I said, if it is on brexit Boris will win, if it is on other policies then it is anyones guess as Boris is a law to himslef and is likely to change his mind to suit his own agenda

His views are up to him, but he has no business trying to lead the party while espousing them. To do so is pointless at best and deliberately divisive and destructive to party cohesion at worst.

[Pokster]

His views are up to him, but he has no business trying to lead the party while espousing them. To do so is pointless at best and deliberately divisive and destructive to party cohesion at worst.

He has every right to lead the party if they want him! It isn't only Brexit, Boris seems to have 1 policy and that is Brexit, everything else he says is waffle with no substance, good luck to him if he gets in, and good luck to the country if he is PM

[Ash]

He has every right to lead the party if they want him! It isn't only Brexit, Boris seems to have 1 policy and that is Brexit, everything else he says is waffle with no substance, good luck to him if he gets in, and good luck to the country if he is PM

Wasn't Boris a lifelong EUro-phile who turned his cloak at the referendum as a career move?

Actually that would be nicely symmetrical with the life-long euro-sceptic leading the other party who turned his cloak at the referendum as a career move.

[Monty92]

Wasn't Boris a lifelong EUro-phile who turned his cloak at the referendum as a career move?

Actually that would be nicely symmetrical with the life-long euro-sceptic leading the other party who turned his cloak at the referendum as a career move.

Hardly a Europhile. Boris used to be notorious for his EU-bashing columns in his days as The Telegraph's Brussels correspondent.

[Burney]

Wasn't Boris a lifelong EUro-phile who turned his cloak at the referendum as a career move?

Actually that would be nicely symmetrical with the life-long euro-sceptic leading the other party who turned his cloak at the referendum as a career move.

No. Boris pretty much made his name at the Telegraph reporting about the iniquities of the EU from Brussels, in fact.

Oh, I see I've d

[Burney]

He has every right to lead the party if they want him! It isn't only Brexit, Boris seems to have 1 policy and that is Brexit, everything else he says is waffle with no substance, good luck to him if he gets in, and good luck to the country if he is PM

This is the mistake people keep making. Right now, it is only Brexit.