In response to #Metoo, this year's Geneva Motor Show has replaced its "booth babes"

[Peter]

There is some truth in that. Most of these little sh1tes would have been immensely improved by leaving school and 14 and being sent to a war.

When the 50s started pretty much all media, TV and social impulse was directed towards adults, or parents. Music on the radio was for your dad.

By the end of the 60s youth culture dominated everything. Imagining trying to parent all of that. ****ing nightmare! Obviously these days the idea that your kids would listen to different music to you and go out and take drugs and talk about politics seems perfectly natural. It must have been terrifying back then.

And now you cant even give them a thump when they play up. No wonder they act like a bunch of little ****ers.

[redgunamo]

When the 50s started pretty much all media, TV and social impulse was directed towards adults, or parents. Music on the radio was for your dad.

By the end of the 60s youth culture dominated everything. Imagining trying to parent all of that. ****ing nightmare! Obviously these days the idea that your kids would listen to different music to you and go out and take drugs and talk about politics seems perfectly natural. It must have been terrifying back then.

And now you cant even give them a thump when they play up. No wonder they act like a bunch of little ****ers.

Trouble is, those adults had already lost all credibility because of The War. I mean, who is going to listen to, people whose beliefs and teachings and way of life had resulted in so much death and destruction.

[Burney]

Trouble is, those adults had already lost all credibility because of The War. I mean, who is going to listen to, people whose beliefs and teachings and way of life had resulted in so much death and destruction.

Do you think? We were all in awe of our teachers who'd seen action. Even if the old buggers were useless in every other regard, the suggestion that they'd 'had a good war' meant they were afforded respect.

Mind you, I was at a proper school.

[redgunamo]

Mind you, I was at a proper school.

Hardly! If it left you with a practically unshakeable belief in the pre-eminence and efficacy of Women's Lib.

That's the thing, see; life is ultimately a results business.

[Burney]

When the 50s started pretty much all media, TV and social impulse was directed towards adults, or parents. Music on the radio was for your dad.

By the end of the 60s youth culture dominated everything. Imagining trying to parent all of that. ****ing nightmare! Obviously these days the idea that your kids would listen to different music to you and go out and take drugs and talk about politics seems perfectly natural. It must have been terrifying back then.

And now you cant even give them a thump when they play up. No wonder they act like a bunch of little ****ers.

The lack of violence to which most young middle class people are exposed these days is also extremely problematic. How can any young animal possibly expect to understand its place in the hierarchy without the occasional battering? If you ask me, there are few more educational moments in life than being punched in the face.

[Peter]

The lack of violence to which most young middle class people are exposed these days is also extremely problematic. How can any young animal possibly expect to understand its place in the hierarchy without the occasional battering? If you ask me, there are few more educational moments in life than being punched in the face.

Hmmmmm... violence in the broader sense, yes. I vividly remember the first time a full back told me he was going to break my legs or a bowler told me the next few were all heading for my ears. I am not convinced that mindless violence taught me anything.

[Burney]

Hmmmmm... violence in the broader sense, yes. I vividly remember the first time a full back told me he was going to break my legs or a bowler told me the next few were all heading for my ears. I am not convinced that mindless violence taught me anything.

Oh, but mindless violence is very rare. Most violence has a very specific social purpose.

[Peter]

Oh, but mindless violence is very rare. Most violence has a very specific social purpose.

Like when a chap told me he was going to punch me in the face because he believed that my friend has let the kebab shop door close on him?

He was most confused when I responded by asking him to be moe specific with regard to the closing of the door.

[Burney]

Like when a chap told me he was going to punch me in the face because he believed that my friend has let the kebab shop door close on him?

He was most confused when I responded by asking him to be moe specific with regard to the closing of the door.

Exactly so. He was simply attempting to assert his dominance.

[Peter]

Exactly so. He was simply attempting to assert his dominance.

He told me he didnt like rock music but I think this was merely an excuse. It was Christmas Eve, he was ugly and poor and him an his mates wanted to punch some people they didnt like the look of.

I would say we fought them to a losing draw