Do people not realise that every time Trump is thwarted by judges his grip on power

[Luis Anaconda]

That's not borne out by polling. In fact, the only thing he does that his base really don't like is his tweeting.

And suddenly polling can be trusted

Are you talking popularity polls? They are seeing some good economic figures at the moment - always going to help a President even though they are the square root of **** all to do with any policies he has implemented

[Burney]

And suddenly polling can be trusted

Are you talking popularity polls? They are seeing some good economic figures at the moment - always going to help a President even though they are the square root of **** all to do with any policies he has implemented

No, this was a poll of his supporters' view of him. I think you're making the mistake of thinking in Democrat/Republican terms. Trump's not a Republican, he's an independent who got in on the Republican ticket. His supporters like his 'outsider' status and actively want to see him attacking pillars of the establishment. Every perceived 'insider' who is seen to thwart him actually makes him stronger because it vindicates his narrative of 'the swamp' trying to protect itself.

[redgunamo]

No, this was a poll of his supporters' view of him. I think you're making the mistake of thinking in Democrat/Republican terms. Trump's not a Republican, he's an independent who got in on the Republican ticket. His supporters like his 'outsider' status and actively want to see him attacking pillars of the establishment. Every perceived 'insider' who is seen to thwart him actually makes him stronger because it vindicates his narrative of 'the swamp' trying to protect itself.

Right. And even more importantly, *this* is his wife and C-Span have their Nielsen share to worry about

[Peter]

No, this was a poll of his supporters' view of him. I think you're making the mistake of thinking in Democrat/Republican terms. Trump's not a Republican, he's an independent who got in on the Republican ticket. His supporters like his 'outsider' status and actively want to see him attacking pillars of the establishment. Every perceived 'insider' who is seen to thwart him actually makes him stronger because it vindicates his narrative of 'the swamp' trying to protect itself.

So he is polling well among his own supporters?

This does not overly surprise or concern me.

[redgunamo]

Yeah, it's complicated.

So he is polling well among his own supporters?

This does not overly surprise or concern me.

[Luis Anaconda]

No, this was a poll of his supporters' view of him. I think you're making the mistake of thinking in Democrat/Republican terms. Trump's not a Republican, he's an independent who got in on the Republican ticket. His supporters like his 'outsider' status and actively want to see him attacking pillars of the establishment. Every perceived 'insider' who is seen to thwart him actually makes him stronger because it vindicates his narrative of 'the swamp' trying to protect itself.

Yes - you're right I am thinking in terms of Republican/Democrats - and agree with what you are saying in terms of his supporter base. But he needs more than that supporter base, I would say, to strengthen his grip on power, which was Monty's assertion. He has undoubtedly given a bloody nose to the establishment but he hasn't knocked it out. I was thinking in terms of a potentially increasingly fractious relationship with Congress and the damage that will eventually do to him. His base will stay with him whatever.

Mind you, he's proved me utterly wrong about most things over the past two years (and a fair few others), so we'll see