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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    As I said the other day, I think a lot of women who've happily benefitted from the casting couch are now using this furore to frame themselves as victims - or indeed to mask their activities by claiming he propositioned them but they refused.

    Otherwise, you'd have to say that he had a very poor strike rate, wouldn't you?
    Take this quote from Kate Beckinsdale:

    "I was called to meet Harvey Weinstein at the Savoy Hotel when I was 17. When I arrived, reception told me to go to his room. He opened the door in his bathrobe. I was incredibly naive and young and it did not cross my mind that this older, unattractive man would expect me to have any sexual interest in him. After declining alcohol and announcing that I had school in the morning I left, uneasy but unscathed. A few years later he asked me if he had tried anything with me in that first meeting. I realized he couldn't remember if he had assaulted me or not."

    The way she phrases this makes it sound as if Weinstein has only ever assaulted women, and could never have simply coerced them into concensual sex. Maybe he just couldn't remember if he'd fúcked her or not?

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Take this quote from Kate Beckinsdale:

    "I was called to meet Harvey Weinstein at the Savoy Hotel when I was 17. When I arrived, reception told me to go to his room. He opened the door in his bathrobe. I was incredibly naive and young and it did not cross my mind that this older, unattractive man would expect me to have any sexual interest in him. After declining alcohol and announcing that I had school in the morning I left, uneasy but unscathed. A few years later he asked me if he had tried anything with me in that first meeting. I realized he couldn't remember if he had assaulted me or not."

    The way she phrases this makes it sound as if Weinstein has only ever assaulted women, and could never have simply coerced them into concensual sex. Maybe he just couldn't remember if he'd fúcked her or not?
    Well that quote is a classic example of condemnation by suggestion. He's actually done nothing in that anecdote at all that is illegal as far as I'm aware. Creepy, sure, but not illegal or even particularly sleazy.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Well that quote is a classic example of condemnation by suggestion. He's actually done nothing in that anecdote at all that is illegal as far as I'm aware. Creepy, sure, but not illegal or even particularly sleazy.
    Well if you were a powerful producer and asked for a meeting with a young actress who is only 17, and at this meeting in his hotel room he is only weraing a bathrobe... i would find that sleazy.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Well if you were a powerful producer and asked for a meeting with a young actress who is only 17, and at this meeting in his hotel room he is only weraing a bathrobe... i would find that sleazy.
    You're as obsessed with dressing gowns as wes. What the hell is wrong with you dressing gown fundamentalists?

    He might have had pyjamas underneath. Or pants.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Well if you were a powerful producer and asked for a meeting with a young actress who is only 17, and at this meeting in his hotel room he is only weraing a bathrobe... i would find that sleazy.
    It's creepy, certainly, but as far as we can see he didn't even put a move on her. The worst we can say is that he offered a 17 year-old a drink - and that's hardly Jimmy Savile behaviour, is it?

    The point is that this type of story is supposed to damn by insinuation despite having no substance to it.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    It's creepy, certainly, but as far as we can see he didn't even put a move on her. The worst we can say is that he offered a 17 year-old a drink - and that's hardly Jimmy Savile behaviour, is it?

    The point is that this type of story is supposed to damn by insinuation despite having no substance to it.
    Hang on - are you saying Jimmy Savile was guilty even though he was never given a trial

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    It's creepy, certainly, but as far as we can see he didn't even put a move on her. The worst we can say is that he offered a 17 year-old a drink - and that's hardly Jimmy Savile behaviour, is it?

    The point is that this type of story is supposed to damn by insinuation despite having no substance to it.
    I believe the numbers of women coming forward and the fact he has admitted consensual sex shows how sleazy the whole thing was... it is a little bit like the Paul Sampson case, you are in a position of power and can offer "advantages" to the women if they shag you, that is an abuse of power.

    Hardly new in hollywood, I would be shocked if there aren't an awful large of Producers/Directors now very nervous
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Take this quote from Kate Beckinsdale:

    "I was called to meet Harvey Weinstein at the Savoy Hotel when I was 17. When I arrived, reception told me to go to his room. He opened the door in his bathrobe. I was incredibly naive and young and it did not cross my mind that this older, unattractive man would expect me to have any sexual interest in him. After declining alcohol and announcing that I had school in the morning I left, uneasy but unscathed. A few years later he asked me if he had tried anything with me in that first meeting. I realized he couldn't remember if he had assaulted me or not."

    The way she phrases this makes it sound as if Weinstein has only ever assaulted women, and could never have simply coerced them into concensual sex. Maybe he just couldn't remember if he'd fúcked her or not?
    I think it is very difficult to form an opinion on this without a picture of a 17-year-old Kate Beckinsale, possibly in her school uniform

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    I think it is very difficult to form an opinion on this without a picture of a 17-year-old Kate Beckinsale, possibly in her school uniform
    Are you in your dressing gown, la?

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