It has to be said that the picture of the Muslim girl on Westminster Bridge yesterday

[Burney]

Opportunist c*nts, not necessarily hate-filled imo.

Hmmmm. I'd say that if you look at a picture of a scared, panicked and clearly upset kid and what you see is a callous, uncaring radical Islamic terrorist sympathiser, you probably have more than your fair share of hate.

[Sir C]

Hmmmm. I'd say that if you look at a picture of a scared, panicked and clearly upset kid and what you see is a callous, uncaring radical Islamic terrorist sympathiser, you probably have more than your fair share of hate.

It may resonate because we just don't know. There is definitely a perception that 'moderate' Muslims are allowing radicalisation to fester within their communities without speaking out or acting against it. We know the huge numbers of victims of FGM whose assaulters are never brought to justice. We know that people close to yesterday's attacker would have heard and known of his views and protected him.

Whether that particular kid is scared and upset isn't really relevant today. She simply stands as a symbol for the hundreds of thousands of her compatriots who turn their faces away.

[Burney]

It may resonate because we just don't know. There is definitely a perception that 'moderate' Muslims are allowing radicalisation to fester within their communities without speaking out or acting against it. We know the huge numbers of victims of FGM whose assaulters are never brought to justice. We know that people close to yesterday's attacker would have heard and known of his views and protected him.

Whether that particular kid is scared and upset isn't really relevant today. She simply stands as a symbol for the hundreds of thousands of her compatriots who turn their faces away.

People aren't symbols. They're people. And when you start treating them as symbols or projecting your anger, prejudices and fears onto individuals, you're on a fvcking slippery slope.

[Sir C]

People aren't symbols. They're people. And when you start treating them as symbols or projecting your anger, prejudices and fears onto individuals, you're on a fvcking slippery slope.

I simply tried to explain why people might have such an emotional response to the photograph. There's no need to go around spitting feathers about it.

[Burney]

I simply tried to explain why people might have such an emotional response to the photograph. There's no need to go around spitting feathers about it.

No feather-spitting here. I understand the initial emotional reaction, but I don't think it's helpful to indulge it - particularly when it's based on a whole bunch of supposition.

There are lots of understandable emotional reactions that people have. Many muslims have emotional reactions to pictures of dead muslim kids in Syria. Doesn't mean I'm going to go easy on them if they start screaming 'death to the west' because of it, though.

[SWv2]

It may resonate because we just don't know. There is definitely a perception that 'moderate' Muslims are allowing radicalisation to fester within their communities without speaking out or acting against it. We know the huge numbers of victims of FGM whose assaulters are never brought to justice. We know that people close to yesterday's attacker would have heard and known of his views and protected him.

Whether that particular kid is scared and upset isn't really relevant today. She simply stands as a symbol for the hundreds of thousands of her compatriots who turn their faces away.

Fat Gay Men?

A person can have views on a matter, picking up a knife or carrying an explosive device perhaps a whole different matter. I would have known hundreds of IRA sympathisers when I was young, only a handful were ever actually involved.

[Sir C]

Fat Gay Men?

A person can have views on a matter, picking up a knife or carrying an explosive device perhaps a whole different matter. I would have known hundreds of IRA sympathisers when I was young, only a handful were ever actually involved.

Yes, but knowing about it and doing nothing is just as bad as doing it. You see that, don't you?

[SWv2]

Yes, but knowing about it and doing nothing is just as bad as doing it. You see that, don't you?

Knowing about what exactly?

A person who knew this bloke yesterday was planning an attack yes, a person who knew he had radical views or sympathies I am less sure.