Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
Well quite. What the cretins who say that ignore is the extent to which Islamic terrorism has already changed our lives. Security at airports, armed police on the streets, an increased acceptance of state monitoring of our lives - all these things have changed our way of life.

If them not changing our way of life is your benchmark for us winning, we lost ages ago.
I'm not sure. Isn't that mostly stuff we were doing, or at least would like to have been doing, anyway?

People didn't want war, everybody wanted peace. Well, this is what peace typically looks like