I wouldn't call myself a homophobe (that's for others to do), but I do find this sort

[Monty92]

and adoption is just a terrible, terrible idea all round, isn't it?

I mean, not for the kid, necessarily, but the people who adopt them.

Who the fúck would take on a child with whom you share no biological kinship and is virtually guaranteed to grow up psychologically dysfunctional?

Mental...

I think it's the transaction that makes me particularly uncomfortable. Treating a woman as a mere vessel for children feels a touch medieval to me.

[Burney]

and adoption is just a terrible, terrible idea all round, isn't it?

I mean, not for the kid, necessarily, but the people who adopt them.

Who the fúck would take on a child with whom you share no biological kinship and is virtually guaranteed to grow up psychologically dysfunctional?

Mental...

All the people I've known who've been adopted have been a bit fücked up about it imo.

[Monty92]

All the people I've known who've been adopted have been a bit fücked up about it imo.

It's alright once they get older - but in the early years adopted kids are invariably violent and impossible to socialise because of whatever traumas they suffered under their biological parents.

I mean, my kids are being brought up in the leafy middle class environs of Hampstead with two blissfully happy and successful parents, and every single day I amaze myself that I've not killed at least one of them. So I can only imagine what it's like to have to care for a truly dysfunctional child who doesn't even share my DNA.

I know a couple with adopted kids. I've tried to chat to the boy, aged around 7, and literally all he does is hiss at me. I basically don't bother any more.

[Burney]

It's alright once they get older - but in the early years adopted kids are invariably violent and impossible to socialise because of whatever traumas they suffered under their biological parents.

I mean, my kids are being brought up in the leafy middle class environs of Hampstead with two blissfully happy and successful parents, and every single day I amaze myself that I've not killed at least one of them. So I can only imagine what it's like to have to care for a truly dysfunctional child who doesn't even share my DNA.

I know a couple with adopted kids. I've tried to chat to the boy, aged around 7, and literally all he does is hiss at me. I basically don't bother any more.

Ooh, you wouldn't want one that's any older than toddler age, would you? Christ knows what's happened to them. Damaged goods.

And let's be honest, while there are obviously many examples of intelligent and successful adoptees, the odds are that they're not going to come of particularly good stock. I've known people who wouldn't buy a dog without knowing its lineage, so the idea of adopting a human with absolutely zero idea of what kind of horrors lurk in its DNA seems enormously risky.