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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    For those of us occasionally seduced by the notion that we might actually hate Chelsea more than Spurs, this season has been a sobering reality-check.
    Exactly. Anyone arguing that has to my mind got the wrong end of the whole Arsenal-supporting stick if you ask me.

    I think most sane Arsenal would happily take losing the Cup final to Chelsea and thus giving them the double over Tottenham winning anything at all.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Exactly. Anyone arguing that has to my mind got the wrong end of the whole Arsenal-supporting stick if you ask me.

    I think most sane Arsenal would happily take losing the Cup final to Chelsea and thus giving them the double over Tottenham winning anything at all.
    Essentially the double, and for that matter FA Cup victory, means **** all now.

    I am sorry to say that given we have held it up in recent years as success. It's a nice day out and all that but league success is really where it is at - and by success I mean winning the fúcking thing.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    FA Cup victory, means **** all now.
    No. If it means nothing now it never meant anything.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    No. If it means nothing now it never meant anything.
    That's deep, man
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    No. If it means nothing now it never meant anything.
    Personally I like it but I just think it has been somewhat gobbled up and spat out in the huge commercialisation of modern football, especially UK football where money appears to have totally taken over. This may well of course be the same in the other major European leagues, of this I am not as aware.

    The PL or importance thereof shíts all over the FA Cup every day of the week, then comes back and shíts on it again just for pure badness.

    I was reminded this morning by a colleague that United won it last year, I may have struggled otherwise. I could not tell you who won it the season before we slayed Hull.

    Once it was huge, I can recall with much nostalgia finals from the 70s and 80s more than the equivalent 12 months ago.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    Personally I like it but I just think it has been somewhat gobbled up and spat out in the huge commercialisation of modern football, especially UK football where money appears to have totally taken over. This may well of course be the same in the other major European leagues, of this I am not as aware.

    The PL or importance thereof shíts all over the FA Cup every day of the week, then comes back and shíts on it again just for pure badness.

    I was reminded this morning by a colleague that United won it last year, I may have struggled otherwise. I could not tell you who won it the season before we slayed Hull.

    Once it was huge, I can recall with much nostalgia finals from the 70s and 80s more than the equivalent 12 months ago.
    It's a very good point. I can remember pretty much every Cup Final winner from 1970-1993 and in most cases who they beat, but after that it gets very hazy indeed.

    And, of course, that basically coincides with the rise of the Premier League.
    Last edited by Burney; 04-28-2017 at 11:15 AM.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    Personally I like it but I just think it has been somewhat gobbled up and spat out in the huge commercialisation of modern football, especially UK football where money appears to have totally taken over. This may well of course be the same in the other major European leagues, of this I am not as aware.

    The PL or importance thereof shíts all over the FA Cup every day of the week, then comes back and shíts on it again just for pure badness.

    I was reminded this morning by a colleague that United won it last year, I may have struggled otherwise. I could not tell you who won it the season before we slayed Hull.

    Once it was huge, I can recall with much nostalgia finals from the 70s and 80s more than the equivalent 12 months ago.
    We are an FA Cup club though. One might even say the *ultimate* FA Cup club.

    There's nothing wrong with it, everyone's different.

    Anyway, it was Wigan Athletic, I think
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    Personally I like it but I just think it has been somewhat gobbled up and spat out in the huge commercialisation of modern football, especially UK football where money appears to have totally taken over. This may well of course be the same in the other major European leagues, of this I am not as aware.

    The PL or importance thereof shíts all over the FA Cup every day of the week, then comes back and shíts on it again just for pure badness.

    I was reminded this morning by a colleague that United won it last year, I may have struggled otherwise. I could not tell you who won it the season before we slayed Hull.

    Once it was huge, I can recall with much nostalgia finals from the 70s and 80s more than the equivalent 12 months ago.
    Only one side can win the league, which makes existance pointless for almost all the others, unless there is something else to play for.

    I remember the discussions back in the austerity years when AW put out weakened teams because he was desperate for the top four monies to keep the lights on (allegedly). There was much criticism of not trying to win a trophy, possibly from some of the same people who now decry the FA Cup as not-a-trophy.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Only one side can win the league, which makes existance pointless for almost all the others, unless there is something else to play for.

    I remember the discussions back in the austerity years when AW put out weakened teams because he was desperate for the top four monies to keep the lights on (allegedly). There was much criticism of not trying to win a trophy, possibly from some of the same people who now decry the FA Cup as not-a-trophy.
    Watch it pal.

    Perhaps my current relative lack of interest in or enthusiasm for said Cup is based on our campaign which through Preston, a reserve Southampton team and a few pub sides totally failed in any way to light my fire.

    I still don't think there is a lot of glory attached to success any more as it is simply, and sadly, not the trophy it used to be. This to me is obvious as managers of Premier League teams almost sacrifice their involvement in it on an annual basis prioritising instead a run of the mill league games a few days later.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    Watch it pal.

    Perhaps my current relative lack of interest in or enthusiasm for said Cup is based on our campaign which through Preston, a reserve Southampton team and a few pub sides totally failed in any way to light my fire.

    I still don't think there is a lot of glory attached to success any more as it is simply, and sadly, not the trophy it used to be. This to me is obvious as managers of Premier League teams almost sacrifice their involvement in it on an annual basis prioritising instead a run of the mill league games a few days later.
    A semi-final line-up of Chelsea, Spurs, Citeh and Arsenal isn't bad though, even if some of the previous rounds were romantic potential bananaskin fixtures.

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