This Harvey Weinstein fellow; he's clearly something of a knob.

[Burney]

You didn't - but you clearly played down the significance of his behavior in both your posts on this thread.

What he's done deserves dismissal and possibly incarceration.

No, I didn’t. I expressed my complete lack of surprise or outrage and some irritation at the way in cases like this that accusation immediately seems to magically transform into fact.

[World's End Stella]

No, I didn’t. I expressed my complete lack of surprise or outrage and some irritation at the way in cases like this that accusation immediately seems to magically transform into fact.

I expect that transformation into fact might have something to do with the fact that so many women have come forward, that people within the industry have commented on how many stories they had heard about him and that he hasn't in any way denied it.

It can become not fact pretty quickly by him simply saying 'it never happened'.

[World's End Stella]

No, I didn’t. I expressed my complete lack of surprise or outrage and some irritation at the way in cases like this that accusation immediately seems to magically transform into fact.

BTW, if memory serves you were pretty quick to condemn Chad Evans even though the judicial process had not run its course.

[Burney]

BTW, if memory serves you were pretty quick to condemn Chad Evans even though the judicial process had not run its course.

I condemned him on the basis that he had actually been convicted in a court of law. You’re condemning Weinstein on the basis of hearsay.

fwiw, I think they’re both probably revolting, sleazy ****s

[SWv2]

I condemned him on the basis that he had actually been convicted in a court of law. You’re condemning Weinstein on the basis of hearsay.

fwiw, I think they’re both probably revolting, sleazy ****s

Not illegal all the same is it?

The ladies still had a say, could exit the scenario should they wish.

Sleazy etc. as you say and roundly condemned now.

[World's End Stella]

Not illegal all the same is it?

The ladies still had a say, could exit the scenario should they wish.

Sleazy etc. as you say and roundly condemned now.

I'm not actually sure what the criminal offence would be, actually. If you can be charged and convicted of rape for not having made an effort to determine that the woman or man can consent, you would have thought that there was something criminal in coercing someone to have sex with you in order to receive a professional advantage.

[Burney]

I'm not actually sure what the criminal offence would be, actually. If you can be charged and convicted of rape for not having made an effort to determine that the woman or man can consent, you would have thought that there was something criminal in coercing someone to have sex with you in order to receive a professional advantage.

I'm pretty sure wànking into a plant pot is a criminal offence. Difficult to prove now, though.

[Pokster]

I'm pretty sure wànking into a plant pot is a criminal offence. Difficult to prove now, though.

What sort of pot plant? We need the full details? Was it a busy Lizzie?

[Sir C]

I'm pretty sure wànking into a plant pot is a criminal offence. Difficult to prove now, though.

wes isn't bothered about ****ing. No. Public masturbation barely registers on wes's outrage scale. Wear an item of nightwear in your own bedroom, though, and he's off the fúcking scale enraged, urging a capital sentence.

[World's End Stella]

I condemned him on the basis that he had actually been convicted in a court of law. You’re condemning Weinstein on the basis of hearsay.

fwiw, I think they’re both probably revolting, sleazy ****s

I didn't condemn Evans at the time because it seemed to me that he had an awfully strong argument that he was unjustly convicted so it seemed sensible to wait and let the judicial process complete before passing judgment.

My view of Weinstein is that there seems to be overwhelming evidence against him and his complete silence seems to suggest he's guilty. Although I wouldn't condemn him completely at this point, my point was that what he is being accused of is not just a bit of slap and tickle that can be easily dismissed, it needs to be treated seriously.