People you would not trust to leave a kid with

[Sir C]

Dave the Hairy Biker with the glasses
:creepy:

Grayson Perry.

Can't be right, that lad.

[Burney]

Grayson Perry.

Can't be right, that lad.

I happened to flick on to MOTD2 last night. They had a feature on this bloke, who is apparently a Premier League photographer. I nearly put the screen in.

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[Sir C]

I happened to flick on to MOTD2 last night. They had a feature on this bloke, who is apparently a Premier League photographer. I nearly put the screen in.

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:sigh: How one misses the 1970s, when such a freak would have been summarily dealt with the moment it set foot outside its front door.

Society was much better off in those self-governing days, to be honest.

[Burney]

:sigh: How one misses the 1970s, when such a freak would have been summarily dealt with the moment it set foot outside its front door.

Society was much better off in those self-governing days, to be honest.

He was talking about how, when he got hair extensions to cover his male pattern baldness, he felt the transition to a woman was complete. All of which, of course, went unquestioned.

It's really hard to know where to start with this sort of institutionalised idiocy. It's getting depressing.

[redgunamo]

He was talking about how, when he got hair extensions to cover his male pattern baldness, he felt the transition to a woman was complete. All of which, of course, went unquestioned.

It's really hard to know where to start with this sort of institutionalised idiocy. It's getting depressing.

There's always been cross-dressing and all that sort thing though. Perhaps "normal" chaps are just more sensitive to it nowadays because of their own .. issues.

We watched "Summer Holiday" the other night and there was even one of that sort in there, which I'd completely forgotten about.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

There's always been cross-dressing and all that sort thing though. Perhaps "normal" chaps are just more sensitive to it nowadays because of their own .. issues.

We watched "Summer Holiday" the other night and there was even one of that sort in there, which I'd completely forgotten about.

Melvyn Hayes ?

[redgunamo]

Melvyn Hayes ?

Yes. And Cliff Richard and Una Stubbs and all the rest. Terrific.

[Monty92]

He was talking about how, when he got hair extensions to cover his male pattern baldness, he felt the transition to a woman was complete. All of which, of course, went unquestioned.

It's really hard to know where to start with this sort of institutionalised idiocy. It's getting depressing.

What's instiutitionalised idiocy about a fella feeling like he wants to live as a bird?

[Burney]

What's instiutitionalised idiocy about a fella feeling like he wants to live as a bird?

A man feeling like he wants to live as a bird is fine. Up to him. However, everyone else agreeing that he is a bird and must be treated as such with no questions asked is not. That is what I mean by institutionalised idiocy. No-one involved in that story would have had the editorial freedom to question his status or call him 'him' without a world of shīt landing on them. That is complicity in a lie.

[Monty92]

A man feeling like he wants to live as a bird is fine. Up to him. However, everyone else agreeing that he is a bird and must be treated as such with no questions asked is not. That is what I mean by institutionalised idiocy. No-one involved in that story would have had the editorial freedom to question his status or call him 'him' without a world of shīt landing on them. That is complicity in a lie.

But we are often complicit in lies in the interest of good manners and tolerance of other people's peculiarities and flaws. If you go to a dinner party and the food is f*ucking rank, you don't come out and say it. And if you did, you would incur punishment in the form of social opprobrium from your fellow guests.