Some fat retards have formed a 'peace chain' outside Didsbury mosque

[Ash]

I blame your lot, to be honest. If Harold Wilson was worth planning a coup about, how come you let Blair do this to us with impunity?

To me this problem started with the support of the politicial and media classes for the muslim side in the Bosnian war. I was never aware of any sense of furious muslim grievance before then, but the hysterical calls for intervention on their behalf, fuelled by unverified propaganda stories circulated by PR companies, and in some cases completely fabricated by journalists, created the muslim-as-victim icon which has been with us ever since. Centre-stage in all this was The Guardian newspaper.

[Sir C]

To me this problem started with the support of the politicial and media classes for the muslim side in the Bosnian war. I was never aware of any sense of furious muslim grievance before then, but the hysterical calls for intervention on their behalf, fuelled by unverified propaganda stories circulated by PR companies, and in some cases completely fabricated by journalists, created the muslim-as-victim icon which has been with us ever since. Centre-stage in all this was The Guardian newspaper.

I'm not convinced, though, that the issue is one of pro-Islam so much as anti-British. They would be on the side of whoever our enemies were, on the grounds that they want to see us eradicated.

[Ash]

I'm not convinced, though, that the issue is one of pro-Islam so much as anti-British. They would be on the side of whoever our enemies were, on the grounds that they want to see us eradicated.

Hang on, are we talking about Jihadis here, or Jorge?

[Sir C]

Hang on, are we talking about Jihadis here, or Jorge?

Jorge, as part of the ruling (and I mean 'ruling') authoritarian leftist culture.

Although I suppose I should be careful what I say, lest I be arrested for a hate crime.

[Ash]

Jorge, as part of the ruling (and I mean 'ruling') authoritarian leftist culture.

But it was the Left that most loudly took up the cause of 'humanitarian intervention' in Jugoslavia and were at the forefront of demands for military action. That was the point at which I left the Left, as I saw them as liberal imperialists. By the time Kosovo came round most of my allies in opposing that war were right-wing libertarians, but the left were for the most part positively ecstatic at the bombing of Serbia. This is why I believe that Tony Blair is a more dangerous and violent nationalist than Nigel Farage.

[redgunamo]

But it was the Left that most loudly took up the cause of 'humanitarian intervention' in Jugoslavia and were at the forefront of demands for military action. That was the point at which I left the Left, as I saw them as liberal imperialists. By the time Kosovo came round most of my allies in opposing that war were right-wing libertarians, but the left were for the most part positively ecstatic at the bombing of Serbia. This is why I believe that Tony Blair is a more dangerous and violent nationalist than Nigel Farage.

That was all just for show, I thought. Sort of "Vote for us, everyone! Us Lefties can bomb people too!"

It's true though, sad to say, but although the finest people you will ever meet in life go to war, it is also a powerful arsehole magnet. Bosnia was especially bad because, being on the mainland, half of Europe's surly, disaffected teens could easily get there by road and rail

[Burney]

Hang on, are we talking about Jihadis here, or Jorge?

It's a trait of the modern left in general, I'm afraid. They actively hate Britishness and find any suggestion that there may be anything positive about this country's legacy disgusting. This is why they lap up the ahistorical rhetoric of Islamists.

[redgunamo]

It's a trait of the modern left in general, I'm afraid. They actively hate Britishness and find any suggestion that there may be anything positive about this country's legacy disgusting. This is why they lap up the ahistorical rhetoric of Islamists.

And that's why it was always important to wear your England shirt and show your real colours, despite any squeamishness. The right sort's failure to do so just encouraged them.

[redgunamo]

To me this problem started with the support of the politicial and media classes for the muslim side in the Bosnian war. I was never aware of any sense of furious muslim grievance before then, but the hysterical calls for intervention on their behalf, fuelled by unverified propaganda stories circulated by PR companies, and in some cases completely fabricated by journalists, created the muslim-as-victim icon which has been with us ever since. Centre-stage in all this was The Guardian newspaper.

Blame the Germans then; they were itching for a fight. They were desperate to kick some arses.

Anyway, I was in Bosnia. It's only really religious in a bland, non-committal, "C of E" sense. Unless they happen to be talking to CNN at the time.

[Burney]

Blame the Germans then; they were itching for a fight. They were desperate to kick some arses.

Anyway, I was in Bosnia. It's only really religious in a bland, non-committal, "C of E" sense. Unless they happen to be talking to CNN at the time.

Did you meet James Blunt? He seems a lovely chap.